NPHC Greeks - how do you feel about this?

[Ilaria Ame]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

The bold text is what I really have a problem with. I know that some non- NPHC orgs take things like stepping very seriously and they have respect for NPHC greeks and some even look to them for guidance in some areas, but there are some that only clown and make a big joke out of every thing we do and that goes for things in Black culture in general. Every thing we do is just a big old joke to them. I respect everyone's culture whether I understand it or not and I don't make fun of other people's cultures or try to put them down for it just because I don't understand something or just because I personally wouldn't do this or that. But some people are just being plain disrespectful like some of the non-NPHC greeks who want to say now that we did not create stepping as it exists today just because they heard (and I say heard because most of them haven't even done the research for themselves) that stepping has African origins. Some of the things that are going on are just plain rude and disrespectful and yes, if you're going to be disrespectful, then don't emulate us at all...why would you want to? Take things to the next level and start your own damn thang.

who do you see as "them"? i've never witnessed a non-HBGLO step, stroll, call, etc in jest. in fact, the orgs i've seen have been very serious about what they're doing and would be insulted to be told that they're not. i'm not saying what you said doesn't happen, but i just can't imagine it.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Ilaria Ame

who do you see as "them"? i've never witnessed a non-HBGLO step, stroll, call, etc in jest. in fact, the orgs i've seen have been very serious about what they're doing and would be insulted to be told that they're not. i'm not saying what you said doesn't happen, but i just can't imagine it.

This happens all the time...especially among some PW fraternities and I'm talking about mocking Black culture in general, not just that of Black greek orgs. Every campus environment is different. At some schools all the greeks respect one another and at others all kinds of disrespect takes place. At one of the PWIs I attended, we didn't socialize with the PW greeks at all because of the things that were taking place and the disrespect that was shown to us. If they wanted to learn how to step it would have only been because they thought is was funny or "cool," not because they truly wanted to learn the artform.

As for the bolded text, if you're serious about what you do and you don't show disrespect to NPHC orgs, than I'm not talking about those orgs.

[Ilaria Ame]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This happens all the time...especially among some PW fraternities and I'm talking about mocking Black culture in general, not just that of Black greek orgs. Every campus environment is different. At some schools all the greeks respect one another and at others all kinds of disrespect takes place. At one of the PWIs I attended, we didn't socialize with the PW greeks at all because of the things that were taking place and the disrespect that was shown to us. If they wanted to learn how to step it would have only been because they thought is was funny or "cool," not because they truly wanted to learn the artform.

As for the bolded text, if you're serious about what you do and you don't show disrespect to NPHC orgs, than I'm not talking about those orgs.

oh, ok. like i said, it just blew my mind to think that this happens. that's sad sorry to show my ignorance, but what is a PW greek? i've never heard that term before.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Ilaria Ame

oh, ok. like i said, it just blew my mind to think that this happens. that's sad sorry to show my ignorance, but what is a PW greek? i've never heard that term before.

PW is just my personal code for predominently White greek org or historically White greek org and PWI is for predominently White Institution. I have to add that at the 2nd PWI I went to, the disrespect problem did not exist although the PW and NPHC orgs had no relationship at all with one another. We didn't even socialize or really know one another. Some PWI's (and I said some) have a whole different set of problems and it doesn't matter if you're a greek or non-greek. And I think you know what kind of problems I'm refering to.

[Ilaria Ame]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

PW is just my personal code for predominently White greek org or historically White greek org and PWI is for predominently White Institution. I have to add that at the 2nd PWI I went to, the disrespect problem did not exist although the PW and NPHC orgs had no relationship at all with one another. We didn't even socialize or really know one another. Some PWI's (and I said some) have a whole different set of problems and it doesn't matter if you're a greek or non-greek. And I think you know what kind of problems I'm refering to.

ok. nice to know...for the record, i am a white girl on a predominately white campus in the deep south. i know the problems you refer to. i see them and deal with them every day in my job, where everyone hates eveyone else. in addition to that, greek life is completely split. seperate events all around. even greek week is only for NPC, NPHC isn't invited to participate. yeah. not kidding. all this is why me and my line sisters founded a chapter of a multicultural org this year. we are hoping to force a change in how greek life is run because we can't be categorized. of course, it could completely flop and we'll be hated by everyone instead of just half of everyone, but all we can do is present ourselves in the best way possible and hope for a miracle!

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Ilaria Ame

ok. nice to know...for the record, i am a white girl on a predominately white campus in the deep south. i know the problems you refer to. i see them and deal with them every day in my job, where everyone hates eveyone else. in addition to that, greek life is completely split. seperate events all around. even greek week is only for NPC, NPHC isn't invited to participate. yeah. not kidding. all this is why me and my line sisters founded a chapter of a multicultural org this year. we are hoping to force a change in how greek life is run because we can't be categorized. of course, it could completely flop and we'll be hated by everyone instead of just half of everyone, but all we can do is present ourselves in the best way possible and hope for a miracle!

Congrats! I see you are a neo. Anyway good luck with what you and your chapter are trying to accomplish, especially in the deep south. I commend you for stepping up and trying to do things differently. I have no problems with the multicultural orgs, heck if you saw some of our chapters and didn't know they were NPHC, you might think we were a multicultural org. Anyway, one of our mantras is "dare to be different." Since we are the youngest and smallest of the sororities in the NPHC (although not young...founded in 1922 or small...85,000 members since inception), we have had to shout to be heard and work to broaden people's minds so we dared to be different in the beginning and we're still doing it now. Just don't give up! It ain't so bad being the underdogs (or in our case underpoodles...get it?...our mascot is the poodle...sorry, I couldn't resist that one ). In fact, it's one of the best decisions I ever made.

[BlueReign]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Congrats! I see you are a neo. Anyway good luck with what you and your chapter are trying to accomplish, especially in the deep south. I commend you for stepping up and trying to do things differently. I have no problems with the multicultural orgs, heck if you saw some of our chapters and didn't know they were NPHC, you might think we were a multicultural org. Anyway, one of our mantras is "dare to be different." Since we are the youngest and smallest of the sororities in the NPHC (although not young...founded in 1922 or small...85,000 members since inception), we have had to shout to be heard and work to broaden people's minds so we dared to be different in the beginning and we're still doing it now. Just don't give up! It ain't so bad being the underdogs (or in our case underpoodles...get it?...our mascot is the poodle...sorry, I couldn't resist that one ). In fact, it's one of the best decisions I ever made.

And I could quote you forever, Soror!

I like what you said and how you said it. This might be my new signature.