Is hazing the best way?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by djpsk21

In all honesty, too many people posting are focusing on the minute details instead of answering the overarching question being asked.

So, I will ask yet again for advice or examples of how a good "pledge process" or a "new member program" is run. I was hoping this forum could help to generate ideas...not only for my chapter to use but other groups to use as well.

I would ask that we stop side tracking ourselves with the unimportant details of who I am, what my position is, the question of my "authority", etc. Rather, let us focus on ideas that can help improve a new member process as this is truly a golden opportunity to fix a broken system.

He has the audacity to think he can tell Greekchat what to do, so he probably takes this approach with his NEW chapter (that is not even his chapter of initiation) and will probably fail miserably because of it.

This is HIS chapter of HIS organization and he's inadequate enough to need stranger nonmembers' advice. Yet HE thinks he can direct the conversation. Yeah I think he needs to contact his national headquarters and/or members from other chapters. They are the only ones who should care enough to help his chapter and help his chapter IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORGANIZATION'S GUIDELINES.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

He has the audacity to think he can tell Greekchat what to do, so he probably takes this approach with his NEW chapter (that is not even his chapter of initiation) and will probably fail miserably because of it.

This is HIS chapter of HIS organization and he's inadequate enough to need stranger nonmembers' advice. Yet HE thinks he can direct the conversation. Yeah I think he needs to contact his national headquarters and/or members from other chapters. They are the only ones who should care enough to help his chapter and help his chapter IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORGANIZATION'S GUIDELINES.

Or he could keep asking here since plenty of people do appear to care enough to help him.

Also, although he objected to the inquiry, he also explained the details that people were asking for. Not outrageous audacity really.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Or he could keep asking here since plenty of people do appear to care enough to help him.

Also, although he objected to the inquiry, he also explained the details that people were asking for.

Did members of his organization not care enough to help him or did he not try?

Yeah...he explained those "unimportant details" that keep "sidetracking" GCers.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Did members of his organization not care enough to help him or did he not try?

Yeah...he explained those "unimportant details" that keep "sidetracking" GCers.

Oh no, I'm so offended. He appears to have exactly the amount of authority he claimed, and nothing more or less.

And I don't really care what he does with his organization, you do however appear to be the only one objecting to his inquiry here.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Oh no, I'm so offended.

Yeah it's horrible that a transfer who was given the "authority" to handle this task is seeking advice on GC.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

you do however appear to be the only one objecting to his inquiry here.

Not really. But, to keep GC fun, threads don't have to go a certain way and GCers don't require a team in order to express an opinion. The best way for OPs not to receive a range of opinions is to not present the issue in the first place.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And I don't really care what he does with his organization

Some care and others don't. As usual, I'm addressing a topic that has little to do specifically with the OP. We wouldn't have much discussion on GC if everything boiled down to "caring" about the OP himself/herself.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And I don't really care what he does with his organization, you do however appear to be the only one objecting to his inquiry here.

Seriously? I had to go back and read the thread again. I saw more than one objection disguised as humorous or sarcastic remarks.

What I found disturbing is his disdain for the "unimportant details", which seemed very important to the original question. This thread may have taken a different course and been half as long if those details had been provided earlier (especially the one about his position.)

In any case it seems to me his question has been answered and re-answered. At this point I don't know what he is looking for unless it is for someone to detail their own Intake process. And if someone does that...

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Seriously? I had to go back and read the thread again. I saw more than one objection disguised as humorous or sarcastic remarks.

What I found disturbing is his disdain for the "unimportant details", which seemed very important to the original question. This thread may have taken a different course and been half as long if those details had been provided earlier (especially the one about his position.)

In any case it seems to me his question has been answered and re-answered. At this point I don't know what he is looking for unless it is for someone to detail their own Intake process. And if someone does that...

I agree that his question's been answered, and to be fair I only scrolled down through the posts that appeared under the reply box, so my own laziness I suppose.

I just find it to be overkill.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I agree that his question's been answered, and to be fair I only scrolled down through the posts that appeared under the reply box, so my own laziness I suppose.

I just find it to be overkill.

Interesting.