Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

[xp2k]

Originally Posted by als463

For the poster who brought "race" into this debate, I'm sorry, but I don't recall Kevin saying anything about race in this thread.

Well, for starters, its probably because you've already shown a lack of ability to process simple logic.

Its not what people say, its what they mean.

Originally Posted by als463

Please leave this discussion to what it is really about: employment and NOT race.

Its not about employment, its about people being vilified about a situation they have little to no control over because "better" people see them as being self-entitled.

See and I didnt call anyone names.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by xp2k

See and I didnt call anyone names.

LOL. It's not what people say, it's what they mean.

[xp2k]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL. It's not what people say, it's what they mean.

lol...red handed

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by xp2k

Well, for starters, its probably because you've already shown a lack of ability to process simple logic.

lol! interesting.

[als463]

Originally Posted by xp2k

Well, for starters, its probably because you've already shown a lack of ability to process simple logic.

Its not what people say, its what they mean.



Its not about employment, its about people being vilified about a situation they have little to no control over because "better" people see them as being self-entitled.

See and I didnt call anyone names.

Yes, I show a lack of ability to process simple logic because I don't buy YOU making this a racial discussion. You don't have to call names, you are essentially saying that I am not intelligent because I don't agree with what you say. So, if someone has a job or is able to find a job, does that mean they are "self-entitled"? I guess because Kevin has a career, that he worked hard for, he must be "self-entitled" in your eyes, right? I guess because I think that there are other options and people need to exhaust all possibilities before complaining about not being able to find employment, I'm lacking empathy and logic, right?

As far as "pushing" the military like it is a cheesy 1980s commercial, if more people would do things they didn't necessarily "like" in order to pay their bills and they didn't feel so "self-entitled" they might be willing to try something unconventional (in their mind) such as going to the military. You still didn't answer my question Dr.Phil. Are you employed? Have you had trouble finding employment? If not, then why don't you give advice to people who are unemployed?

As far as the people complaining about the state of our economy and how people who are working are "self-absorbed" assholes, maybe you could come up with ways to tell people what they can do to help their situation. Xp2k bringing "race" into the discussion doesn't exactly "help" the situation, either. Maybe instead of posting snarky comments, certain people could discuss what they think would HELP people.

Dreamseeker, I find it "interesting" that the only thing you have contributed to this thread is to make a snarky comment toward someone else saying I lack logic because I don't agree with them bringing "race" into a discussion, that doesn't need it. Maybe instead of being snarky, you could add something of substance. Just a thought.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by als463

As far as "pushing" the military like it is a cheesy 1980s commercial, if more people would do things they didn't necessarily "like" in order to pay their bills and they didn't feel so "self-entitled" they might be willing to try something unconventional (in their mind) such as going to the military.

Ok, let me break this down for you again.

The. Military. Is. Not. For. Everyone.

It's not about whether you 'like' it or not. It's great that you were able to do it, more power to you. But just stop. You are not going to garner any support with that argument. Period.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

You don't have to call names, you are essentially saying that I am not intelligent because I don't agree with what you say. So, if someone has a job or is able to find a job, does that mean they are "self-entitled"? I guess because Kevin has a career, that he worked hard for, he must be "self-entitled" in your eyes, right? I guess because I think that there are other options and people need to exhaust all possibilities before complaining about not being able to find employment, I'm lacking empathy and logic, right?

That was also not a coincidence.

As for the rest, she's in a different thread than we are. The turn of this thread wasn't about having a job and being able to have a job. Why would it be? Only an idiot (yes, an idiot) would think this is a thread of people who are slamming the employed.

Uh...for starters, not all of us are unemployed. Uh...for runner ups, MysticCat and others have already explained why Kevin was called an asshole.

Originally Posted by als463

...such as going to the military.

LOL.

"Don't believe the hype." ~Flava Flav

Originally Posted by als463

You still didn't answer my question Dr.Phil. Are you employed? Have you had trouble finding employment? If not, then why don't you give advice to people who are unemployed?

This isn't an advice thread. This is an asshead, judgmental people thread. Haven't you noticed?

[xp2k]

Originally Posted by als463

Yes, I show a lack of ability to process simple logic because I don't buy YOU making this a racial discussion. You don't have to call names, you are essentially saying that I am not intelligent because I don't agree with what you say..

HEY! I didnt say you were stupid or a dumbass (though you do tend to agree with and have the same morals as someone that could be considered stupid or a dumbass, but I'm not calling you that), I'm just saying you can only read the lines, not whats between them...

A far as race, I'll admit, maybe I did read more into what Kevin was saying than there really was...I'll take the slap for that.

Originally Posted by als463

So, if someone has a job or is able to find a job, does that mean they are "self-entitled"? I guess because Kevin has a career, that he worked hard for, he must be "self-entitled" in your eyes, right?

Please go back and read what I wrote, and then you tell me.

Originally Posted by als463

I guess because I think that there are other options and people need to exhaust all possibilities before complaining about not being able to find employment, I'm lacking empathy and logic, right?.

Bingo! See...I knew you could be taught!

Originally Posted by als463

Xp2k bringing "race" into the discussion doesn't exactly "help" the situation, either. Maybe instead of posting snarky comments, certain people could discuss what they think would HELP people.

Ok, what I think would "help" the situation is if people understood that having a job isnt as simple as wanting one (as studies show, since there are more people out of work than there are jobs) and that removing unemployment will do more harm than good.

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Where the hell did Titanium Gene go, anyway? Thanks for farting in a crowded elevator, dude.

lol!

Originally Posted by xp2k

HEY! I didnt say you were stupid or a dumbass (though you do tend to agree with and have the same morals as someone that could be considered stupid or a dumbass, but I'm not calling you that), I'm just saying you can only read the lines, not whats between them...


Bingo! See...I knew you could be taught!

i think i like you.

[als463]

Originally Posted by xp2k

HEY! I didnt say you were stupid or a dumbass (though you do tend to agree with and have the same morals as someone that could be considered stupid or a dumbass, but I'm not calling you that), I'm just saying you can only read the lines, not whats between them...

A far as race, I'll admit, maybe I did read more into what Kevin was saying than there really was...I'll take the slap for that.


Please go back and read what I wrote, and then you tell me.



Bingo! See...I knew you could be taught!




Ok, what I think would "help" the situation is if people understood that having a job isnt as simple as wanting one (as studies show, since there are more people out of work than there are jobs) and that removing unemployment will do more harm than good.

Are you employed? Don't talk to me like I'm a moron. Just because I don't buy it that people who are truly looking and willing to take whatever comes their way, still can't find a job, does not mean I lack logic or empathy. It means that I am realistic about the options out there-that some people are taking advantage of.

There is a difference, between people on Welfare (who may have never worked a day in their life) and people on Unemployment (who may have paid into that pot of money). Let me say that I don't see anything wrong with collecting unemployment. What I do have an issue with is people who live off Welfare OR Unemployment for a substantially long time and then complain that they haven't found a job. I have worked for everything I have. My parents didn't pay for my college. My parents aren't college educated, and yet they (like me) didn't have a hard time finding a job. Don't pretend that everyone on Unemployment is out there looking for a job or that they may not be just turning their noses up in the air to things that don't "suit" their needs.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

What I do have an issue with is people who live off Welfare OR Unemployment for a substantially long time and then complain that they haven't found a job....Don't pretend that everyone on Unemployment is out there looking for a job or that they may not be just turning their noses up in the air to things that don't "suit" their needs.

The funny thing is that you and the rest of Kevin's minions think you're the only ones in this thread who take note of this.

Like I said pages ago, I feel sorry for anyone whose brain is stuck on this basic understanding and can't go deeper than this.

[xp2k]

Originally Posted by als463

Are you employed?

you asking this question alone proves that you have a different opinion of the people that you are giving your wise advice to.

If I were unemployed, would that change my logic? or the value of my opinion?

If I were employed, would that change my logic? or the value of my opinion?

you asking this question is really pointless, other than to validate your own glass argument.