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Originally Posted by macallan25
Yeah, I was merely thinking that previous actions influenced the 1993 rulings for A&M. You are right though, what happened to OU in 2005 looks eerily similar to what A&M did in 1993........booster pay for play type stuff. Surely though you can see how bad A&M's violation looked to the NCAA. They get in trouble in 1988 for pretty serious infractions (I thought the resulting punishment didn't sound to bad given the wrong doing), have a probation period, and then immediately get in trouble again only a few years later.
The only problem I have with your arguments is this: A lot of people, like you, bring up the Kelvin Sampson illegal phone call ordeal. I am in no way all that knowledgeable about how the NCAA rules committee works.......but what does the conduct of OU's Basketball Program have anything remotely close to do with the OU Football program? I don't see how one can affect the other. I can't think of anything that the OU Football Program has done to get themselves in trouble for quite a ways back, at least not in the Stoops era. I just don't see how Sampson's screw up and the probation imposed on the basketball team would affect OU Football.
As far as OU's checkered past? Yeah, they have one.......but look at the dates:
1956
1960
1973
1980
1988 - These violations were pretty severe and had a rough judgement: 3 years probation, tv bans, substantial loss of scholarships, substantial recruiting restrictions, etc.
The current sanctions were laid down what? Close to 20 years later? I just can't see the NCAA taking into account the mess that Switzer caused when deciding the fate of Bob Stoops' team. Especially after what he did when he discovered the problem. Also, it is unfair for you to make the claim that OU was cheating. None of us know that.
As for us being an untouchable institution......I do know that we have 4 violations listed as MAJOR on the NCAA website.......but I don't know what sport they were in. I know our Baseball program got into some trouble a few years back, but that's about it.
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The ONLY reason I bring up the Sampson thing is because in the wording the NCAA used, the entire institution was on probation, not just the basketball program. Do I necessarily think that's right? Not really, if my baseball coaches are running trains on students or midgets and get in serious trouble, it shouldn't affect the football program, but according to the wording the NCAA used in their decision the whole institution has to suffer.
Well, the reason I use the word untouchable is that y'all might get caught, but there's no way in hell the NCAA is going to take tu sports off television or suspend them from postseason play.
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