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07-11-2007, 04:57 PM
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This is a pretty weak penalty. However, the NCAA has been pretty weak of late.
I'm still patiently waiting for the NCAA to take action on the obvious USC violations, but I'm not holding my breath.
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07-11-2007, 05:14 PM
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This is a pretty weak penalty. However, the NCAA has been pretty weak of late.
I'm still patiently waiting for the NCAA to take action on the obvious USC violations, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Yeah, the penalties for USC and tOSU *should* be higher. The only real difference between those two and OU is that OU disclosed what was going on, cooperated with the NCAA and even imposed some pretty harsh penalties on itself.
The only additional penalty here was the amendment to the record book.
As for last year's recruiting class, the word is that a lot of recruits were negative recruited because of these violations. That said, the '07 class ahs been pretty damn good. It was ranked 14th that year which ain't shabby.
This year, thus far, Oklahoma is ranked #5 by Rivals currently. I imagine that they'll be doing even better now that prospects know that the penalties imposed here won't be serious.
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07-11-2007, 10:36 PM
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"On Aug. 3 -- the day before the Sooners began preseason practice -- Stoops dismissed Bomar and Quinn from the team after the university determined they had been paid for work not performed at Big Red Sports and Imports."
Oops. We bought a car for our son from these guys when he was at Oklahoma.
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"On Aug. 3 -- the day before the Sooners began preseason practice -- Stoops dismissed Bomar and Quinn from the team after the university determined they had been paid for work not performed at Big Red Sports and Imports."
Oops. We bought a car for our son from these guys when he was at Oklahoma.
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I'm disappointed in you DA.
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07-11-2007, 11:09 PM
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Actually, it was a pretty good deal.
We just sold it.
Sounds like the players had a pretty good deal, too. No work and good pay.
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07-12-2007, 12:23 AM
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Actually, it was a pretty good deal.
We just sold it.
Sounds like the players had a pretty good deal, too. No work and good pay.
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Anyone who doesn't think this goes on at every major program in the nation is naive as heck. Hundred dollar handshakes and things of that nature happen in every program, even the small ones.
If colleges would just pay the damn athletes, we could all stop pretending this stuff doesn't really happen.
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07-12-2007, 01:20 AM
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Anyone who doesn't think this goes on at every major program in the nation is naive as heck. Hundred dollar handshakes and things of that nature happen in every program, even the small ones.
If colleges would just pay the damn athletes, we could all stop pretending this stuff doesn't really happen.
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I think most colleges would be happy to -- but let's all hide behind the NCAA rules a while longer.
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07-12-2007, 11:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
Anyone who doesn't think this goes on at every major program in the nation is naive as heck. Hundred dollar handshakes and things of that nature happen in every program, even the small ones.
If colleges would just pay the damn athletes, we could all stop pretending this stuff doesn't really happen.
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I agree - the real issue is the level of athletic department or team "awareness" (more likely influence) . . . really, the separation between teams is more on the level of what they are willing to ignore or forgive, rather than whether they're all 'clean' or not.
College football and basketball are incredibly dirty, there's no doubt about it.
I don't know that paying players will really end it, though - is the pay based on performance? It would have to be 'standardized' to prevent the rich from getting richer as it were, which would just lead to the same sort of tipping and payouts. I don't know that there's really a solution at all.
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07-12-2007, 10:55 PM
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This is a pretty weak penalty. However, the NCAA has been pretty weak of late.
I'm still patiently waiting for the NCAA to take action on the obvious USC violations, but I'm not holding my breath.
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This is what gets me. OU's charges are failure to monitor, yet it was our investigators that found the initial wrongdoings and dismissed the players from the team.
Yet Bush's family was living in a mansion that they didn't own, and nothing happens?
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07-13-2007, 12:24 AM
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This is what gets me. OU's charges are failure to monitor, yet it was our investigators that found the initial wrongdoings and dismissed the players from the team.
Yet Bush's family was living in a mansion that they didn't own, and nothing happens?
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Don't forget Dwayne Jarrett (sp) and his luxury apartment.
Or for tOSU, Troy Smith and the cash he took.
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07-13-2007, 11:35 AM
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Don't forget Dwayne Jarrett (sp) and his luxury apartment.
Or for tOSU, Troy Smith and the cash he took.
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I never heard of anything ever happening with the Maurice Clarett situation either.
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