OU forced to forfeit all 2005 wins . . .

Originally Posted by Kevin

How would you expect the team to have known about this? Do you actually expect the NCAA compliance department to go and verify all timecards for all scholarship players at OU to make sure that athletes aren't clocking in while we know they're in class/practice?

As for the "cheating" allegation, that's a very misleading word. Cheating usually means that you're gaining some unfair advantage on the field. Correct me if I'm wrong, but these guys were already committed to play at OU when they showed up for work at Big Red, right? So how, exactly did this affect the product on the field? Not at all.


As far as compliance, self-reporting, etc. go, this far trumps the cooperation level the Aggies exhibited in the early 90's/late 80's. Your coaches were directly involved for chrissakes... and I don't recall them being particularly compliant with the NCAA.

Could Oklahoma have covered this up? Oh absolutely. Your message board poster had paychecks. Those were only part of the story. They may have seemed large, but in itself, that proves nothing. He didn't have timecards and he had no way to obtain them (other than theft of company records). klahoma could have instructed Big Red to destroy those time cards, they could have covered everything up, and they probably would have gotten away with it just as Ohio State and USC have done.

You're comparing apples to oranges here brother. That's all I'm saying. One violation is not the same as another.

Kevin,

I'm not arguing that the 1988 instance linked by the 'sip up there is different from OU's current situation. What I was referencing was the 1993 case involving A&M and a rogue booster that had Aggie players in a similar situation to Bomar and Quinn.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...M%20University

SPORTS PEOPLE: COLLEGE FOOTBALL; 2 More Aggie Players Ineligible

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Published: May 27, 1993

R. C. SLOCUM, Texas A&M's football coach, said yesterday that two more of his players, linebacker JESSE COX and wide receiver BRIAN MITCHELL, have been declared ineligible for accepting improper payments from a prominent Dallas booster.

Slocum said the two players worked summer jobs at a Dallas company owned by WARREN GILBERT and were paid salaries of $200 a week. An investigation by the university and the National Collegiate Athletics Association showed they were paid for some hours they did not work, Slocum said.

The two players bring to seven the number declared ineligible for accepting illegal payments from Gilbert, who owns several low-income housing projects in Dallas. (AP)