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[_Opi_]

Originally Posted by ufdale

I was being sarcastic.

Oh, ok. I was a little confused.

[SigKapSweetie]

Originally Posted by starang21

i'm sure your dad would sue the hell out of your school if a cop tased you for not having a student ID.

My dad would sue the hell out of the school if some guy, who had no student ID because he was actually Ted Bundy, came into the library where I was studying one night and murdered me. Was this kid a serial killer? No. But those rules are there for a reason. He refused to abide by the rules, so he had to be forcibly removed. If I were a cop, I'd prefer to taze him than to have to exchange blows with him in a fistfight and risk him getting close enough to grab my gun.

Some people get so caught up in protecting one person's rights that they forget that the rest of us have rights, too. I have the right to go study in the library late at night, secure in the knowledge that only other students with valid IDs can be in there with me. The bottom line is that he didn't have the right to be there without his ID, and he necessitated the involvement of the police by refusing to leave. I'm a big fan of people getting what they deserve, and I can't say I object to this.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by SigKapSweetie

My dad would sue the hell out of the school if some guy, who had no student ID because he was actually Ted Bundy, came into the library where I was studying one night and murdered me. Was this kid a serial killer? No. But those rules are there for a reason. He refused to abide by the rules, so he had to be forcibly removed. If I were a cop, I'd prefer to taze him than to have to exchange blows with him in a fistfight and risk him getting close enough to grab my gun.

Some people get so caught up in protecting one person's rights that they forget that the rest of us have rights, too. I have the right to go study in the library late at night, secure in the knowledge that only other students with valid IDs can be in there with me. The bottom line is that he didn't have the right to be there without his ID, and he necessitated the involvement of the police by refusing to leave. I'm a big fan of people getting what they deserve, and I can't say I object to this.

and he already said he was leaving prior to him being tased. or did you miss that part? yea, it was ok to tase a college student without an ID 5 times.

Originally Posted by starang21

you people realize he already said he was leaving prior to him being tazed?

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by starang21

and he already said he was leaving prior to him being tased. or did you miss that part? yea, it was ok to tase a college student without an ID 5 times.

I believe, if I recall correctly, that he refused to leave before the tape started rolling, then started throwing a tantrum, then the recording starts and then what we see is 'unnecessary force'. This video is completely slanted to cause the reactions many of you are having (screw The Man, abuse of power, student did nothing wrong etc etc.).

[starang21]

Originally Posted by centaur532

I believe, if I recall correctly, that he refused to leave before the tape started rolling, then started throwing a tantrum, then the recording starts and then what we see is 'unnecessary force'. This video is completely slanted to cause the reactions many of you are having (screw The Man, abuse of power, student did nothing wrong etc etc.).

from what i've heard was that he was leaving, the copped put his hands on him while he was leaving which caused him to get irate. whether or not that was the correct reaction is up to interpretation. however, i highly doubt the person videotaping this from a camera phone had the ulterior motive of painting the police in a poor fashion.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by starang21

from what i've heard was that he was leaving, the copped put his hands on him while he was leaving which caused him to get irate. whether or not that was the correct reaction is up to interpretation. however, i highly doubt the person videotaping this from a camera phone had the ulterior motive of painting the police in a poor fashion.

It's not a camera phone, the quality is too good. I don't doubt he was trying to show the police in a poor light at all. In my experience, most college students despise the police. I don't.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by centaur532

It's not a camera phone, the quality is too good. I don't doubt he was trying to show the police in a poor light at all. In my experience, most college students despise the police. I don't.

http://www.dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38958

"The CSOs left, returning minutes later, and police officers arrived to escort the student out. By this time the student had begun to walk toward the door with his backpack when an officer approached him and grabbed his arm, at which point the student told the officer to let him go. A second officer then approached the student as well. "

"Video shot from a student's camera phone captured the student yelling, "Here's your Patriot Act, here's your fucking abuse of power," while he struggled with the officers"

quality too good, huh?


yea, i'm sure that the guy videotaping it from a camera phone sure was thinking "lemme get this so i can get back at the cops."

uhhhh.........

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by starang21

He has a helluva case, and someone's getting fired and someone else is getting paid. i'm sure your dad would sue the hell out of your school if a cop tased you for not having a student ID.

Agreed. UCLA's campus-Rent-a-cop-America's-Finest should be sued. Period.

[JonInKC]

Originally Posted by BobbyTheDon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0KRCUalPgg

check that video out.

This lady bit a man. Then got tased. Then says, " I can't move bitch! What chu think Imma do!"

oh c'mon. If you guys can't laugh at that line...

I love it. He tells her two or three times, get out of the car or you're gettin' tazed. Instead of just shutting her hole and exiting the vehicle, she offers her irrelevant opinion and then tells the police not to touch her. Nice thong, btw.

About the other clip, the guy sure talks about leaving, but from what I could make out from that clip (which was not terribly useful) he doesn't leave. Why don't the cops carry tranquilizer guns like on Metal Gear? Then people would stop screaming like the police had just eaten a baby. Or not.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by JonInKC

Why don't the cops carry tranquilizer guns like on Metal Gear?

LOL, and shake them down for dog tags?

[Kevin]

Before tasers, the cops would have incapacitated him with night sticks.

Watching the video, I see no unnecessary force. The kid didn't follow the rules, he refused to obey repeated lawful orders from police officers, they used non-deadly force to persuade him. The kid has to be the biggest douche I've ever seen. Here's your Patriot Act! What a winner.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Before tasers, the cops would have incapacitated him with night sticks.

Watching the video, I see no unnecessary force. The kid didn't follow the rules, he refused to obey repeated lawful orders from police officers, they used non-deadly force to persuade him. The kid has to be the biggest douche I've ever seen. Here's your Patriot Act! What a winner.

Agreed, that kid deserved to get jacked. Cops unfortunately have to deal with "damned if you do, damned if you don't" way too often on the job.

[_Opi_]

So he's a douche bag because:

He said he was leaving

Or

He brought up the Patriot Act


???

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by _Opi_

So he's a douche bag because:

He said he was leaving

Or

He brought up the Patriot Act


???

Bottom line: douche bag did not cooperate with the police. Whether or not the police officer is right, if the request is simple, e.g., "stand up," you do it, no questions asked. This kid instead screamed at the police, passively resisted by laying on the ground, and sure, after the fact, he said he "was leaving."

I'm not sure what the patriot act has to do with police officers removing a trespassor from private property. Maybe you could fill me in on that one?

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Bottom line: douche bag did not cooperate with the police. Whether or not the police officer is right, if the request is simple, e.g., "stand up," you do it, no questions asked. This kid instead screamed at the police, passively resisted by laying on the ground, and sure, after the fact, he said he "was leaving."

Exactly. My cousin was on the police force and later a SWAT Team in Nashville. I have heard some pretty amazing stories as a result.

The most important thing I learned is that you never know who has a gun. There are serial murderers who have given up without a fight, and there are cases where an officer was shot and killed or injured for life on a simple traffic stop.

I also remember being a student at Texas and a large portion of the student population walking around with a chip on their shoulder for anyone in authority for no good reason whatsoever. I shudder to think how big that group is at our fine instititutions in Kalifornia.

Last week a 92 year old woman shot 3 police officers.

Do you want the police to assume this student is unarmed and let him have control of this situation? Do you want to support his wife and kids when he gets shot dead because you think the police are too brutal and do not make accomodations for certain people because they are "little college students" or sweet little old ladies?

You all saw the video, but what is there to this situation- specifically and in the big picture- that was not so readily visible.

As for the "Patriot Act" comment- that sickens me. That is a tricky piece of legislation, no doubt, but invoking it to validate one's own bad behavior strikes me as incredibly immature and stupid.

Maybe this incident will beat some sense into the kid- but I won't hold my breath.