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Old 11-23-2006, 12:16 AM
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Before tasers, the cops would have incapacitated him with night sticks.

Watching the video, I see no unnecessary force. The kid didn't follow the rules, he refused to obey repeated lawful orders from police officers, they used non-deadly force to persuade him. The kid has to be the biggest douche I've ever seen. Here's your Patriot Act! What a winner.
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Old 11-23-2006, 12:39 AM
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Before tasers, the cops would have incapacitated him with night sticks.

Watching the video, I see no unnecessary force. The kid didn't follow the rules, he refused to obey repeated lawful orders from police officers, they used non-deadly force to persuade him. The kid has to be the biggest douche I've ever seen. Here's your Patriot Act! What a winner.
Agreed, that kid deserved to get jacked. Cops unfortunately have to deal with "damned if you do, damned if you don't" way too often on the job.
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:44 AM
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So he's a douche bag because:

He said he was leaving

Or

He brought up the Patriot Act


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Old 11-24-2006, 03:12 AM
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So he's a douche bag because:

He said he was leaving

Or

He brought up the Patriot Act


???
Bottom line: douche bag did not cooperate with the police. Whether or not the police officer is right, if the request is simple, e.g., "stand up," you do it, no questions asked. This kid instead screamed at the police, passively resisted by laying on the ground, and sure, after the fact, he said he "was leaving."

I'm not sure what the patriot act has to do with police officers removing a trespassor from private property. Maybe you could fill me in on that one?
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Old 11-24-2006, 10:42 AM
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Bottom line: douche bag did not cooperate with the police. Whether or not the police officer is right, if the request is simple, e.g., "stand up," you do it, no questions asked. This kid instead screamed at the police, passively resisted by laying on the ground, and sure, after the fact, he said he "was leaving."
Exactly. My cousin was on the police force and later a SWAT Team in Nashville. I have heard some pretty amazing stories as a result.

The most important thing I learned is that you never know who has a gun. There are serial murderers who have given up without a fight, and there are cases where an officer was shot and killed or injured for life on a simple traffic stop.

I also remember being a student at Texas and a large portion of the student population walking around with a chip on their shoulder for anyone in authority for no good reason whatsoever. I shudder to think how big that group is at our fine instititutions in Kalifornia.

Last week a 92 year old woman shot 3 police officers.

Do you want the police to assume this student is unarmed and let him have control of this situation? Do you want to support his wife and kids when he gets shot dead because you think the police are too brutal and do not make accomodations for certain people because they are "little college students" or sweet little old ladies?

You all saw the video, but what is there to this situation- specifically and in the big picture- that was not so readily visible.

As for the "Patriot Act" comment- that sickens me. That is a tricky piece of legislation, no doubt, but invoking it to validate one's own bad behavior strikes me as incredibly immature and stupid.

Maybe this incident will beat some sense into the kid- but I won't hold my breath.

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Old 11-24-2006, 07:58 PM
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[QUOTE=EE-BO;1361884]

Last week a 92 year old woman shot 3 police officers.



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But the circumstances of this story are pretty crazy. I've read that the lady had been protecting herself due to recent spats in the neighborhood. She shot the three police officers while they were executing a search warrant at her residence. The search was a mistake and they went into the wrong house and when they came in she started popping.

Not to say that she was right but it's not like she was just sitting there tagging cops with bullets.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:52 PM
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Very true. I just wanted to make the point you never know who has a gun- or their intentions.

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Old 11-24-2006, 10:48 AM
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Bottom line: douche bag did not cooperate with the police. Whether or not the police officer is right, if the request is simple, e.g., "stand up," you do it, no questions asked. This kid instead screamed at the police, passively resisted by laying on the ground, and sure, after the fact, he said he "was leaving."

I'm not sure what the patriot act has to do with police officers removing a trespassor from private property. Maybe you could fill me in on that one?
uhhhh.....he was laying on the ground AFTER he got tased.

you tell me to stand up after you tase me for no reason, i tell you to go fuck yourself.

he was already leaving prior to the cops making it an issue.
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Old 11-24-2006, 06:05 PM
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uhhhh.....he was laying on the ground AFTER he got tased.

you tell me to stand up after you tase me for no reason, i tell you to go fuck yourself.

he was already leaving prior to the cops making it an issue.
Obviously you didn't watch the video. He wasn't tased for "no reason." The police officers attempted to secure his cooperation by requesting it, he refused and instead screamed at them.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:54 PM
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Obviously you didn't watch the video. He wasn't tased for "no reason." The police officers attempted to secure his cooperation by requesting it, he refused and instead screamed at them.
actually i did watch the video. did you read the article i previously posted a few posts up?

http://www.dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38958

here it is again, in case you missed it the first time.

he was leaving when a cop decided to expidite the process by putting his hands on him. he tells the cop to get his hands off of him, and this ends up with him being tased.

"get up or you'll get tased again."

sounds like he was on the ground AFTER he got tased.
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