What do you feel like saying, right now?

[Zach]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

You’ve lived divorce twice, and I’m sorry you had to go through that, honestly. But the fact you’ve been divorced twice doesn’t make you the authority on women, it just makes you the authority on the two you chose.

My divorces don’t make me the authority on women but they make me the authority on what happens when things fall apart. And the truth is, I’m not alone. The majority of divorces are filed by women, and it’s usually not because of abuse or betrayal, it’s because they weren’t happy anymore. That’s not just my story, it’s a trend. With women, “I do” can quickly turn into “I’m done.” That’s not just my story either, that’s the pattern. I’ve lived it, I’ve studied it, and I’ve watched it happen to countless men. You don’t need a theory when you’ve seen the reality up close.

[bevinpiphi]

Originally Posted by Zach

My divorces don’t make me the authority on women but they make me the authority on what happens when things fall apart. And the truth is, I’m not alone. The majority of divorces are filed by women, and it’s usually not because of abuse or betrayal, it’s because they weren’t happy anymore. That’s not just my story, it’s a trend. With women, “I do” can quickly turn into “I’m done.” That’s not just my story either, that’s the pattern. I’ve lived it, I’ve studied it, and I’ve watched it happen to countless men. You don’t need a theory when you’ve seen the reality up close.

What do you think turns women from "I do" to "I'm done", because in my observations, it's the actions or nonactions of the men that push them to "I'm done"

[agzg]

Originally Posted by bevinpiphi

What do you think turns women from "I do" to "I'm done", because in my observations, it's the actions or nonactions of the men that push them to "I'm done"

It's giving "she left me out of nowhere!!" when he hasn't washed his own clothes in a decade and still can't put his fucking socks in the hamper.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Did you see how dude was treating it? He was acting like it was a Ferrari or something. All proud, barely drives it, like it’s made of gold. If I was Jay, I’d take that thing straight to McDonald’s, fries in the seat, nuggets in the cup holder, barbecue sauce on the console. And since I don’t know shit about cars, I’d be driving like, So how much did this set your uncle back? Fifteen hundred? What you think you’ll get on a trade-in, maybe two grand if sales dude at the dealer feels generous?

Then when he starts trippin, I’d be leaned up against it drinking a beer like, Brooo… this is an old ass Grand Prix. This is a family car your auntie drove to church. Stop treating it like a Bugatti. Chill, bro.

So…. I watched some of that video to see what you guys are talking about. It looks like it has a beak, like a parrot on wheels. He mentioned his wife, so if I was his wife and he was dropping me off at work in it, I’d tell him to just drop me off a block away, and I’ll walk. I mean, I’m not about to be seen climbing out of a car that looks like it should be squawking at people. Call it a classic if you want, to me it’s just… like… an old car with a beak? I didn’t get what was so special about it or why it was even on the show. I’m like, really? Why? Just why? I hope Jay didn’t pay that guy. Honestly, I could’ve gone my whole life without ever seeing that car.

Originally Posted by Zach

My divorces don’t make me the authority on women but they make me the authority on what happens when things fall apart. And the truth is, I’m not alone. The majority of divorces are filed by women, and it’s usually not because of abuse or betrayal, it’s because they weren’t happy anymore. That’s not just my story, it’s a trend. With women, “I do” can quickly turn into “I’m done.” That’s not just my story either, that’s the pattern. I’ve lived it, I’ve studied it, and I’ve watched it happen to countless men. You don’t need a theory when you’ve seen the reality up close.

Zach, women don’t just detach for sport. The kind of women you picked clearly didn’t take their vows seriously from the start. That’s not universal, that’s personal. The vows meant something to you, but you gave them to women who didn’t value them the same way. That’s not all women, that’s two bad investments you signed off on.

And you keep framing it like detachment is some mystery that sneaks up on men, but let’s be honest, the women you chose probably showed you who they were long before you married them. What you see in dating and courtship is what you will see married. Their past experiences should have also meant something to you. The problem is you just thought vows would fix what the red flags already showed you. That’s not about women being unpredictable, that’s about you ignoring what was in plain sight.

And another thing too is not every woman who says their vows means covenant. Some mean contract. And if you hand covenant vows to a contract-minded person, it’s always going to end the same way. That’s not proof that marriage is broken, that’s proof that discernment matters more than romance.

And then you’re like “women detach”, and that it’s a pattern. But you kept choosing women who detach. That’s not a female instinct, that’s your dating pool and a pattern on your end. You keep fishing in the same pond and then blaming the water for being muddy, lol. At some point you need to study what kind of patterns you saw before you married them.

Divorce doesn’t just prove women can leave, it proves men and women can choose wrong, and in your case.. Twice.

[cheerfulgreek]

WIFLSRN: Today is my daughter’s birthday. She’s 9.

So, this morning when I was taking my kids to school, she’s like… “Mom, can I cancel my birthday party? I don’t feel like being bothered with that many kids.” I’m like, what? lol. You said that like you’re not a kid yourself. You can’t just go canceling something you originally wanted. Her party is tomorrow so I took off work today so I can get everything she needs for it. I was glad she said that though because that’s telling me she just wants a simple birthday with her family. Next year, that will be awesome if she decides no birthday party, lol. Less work for her parents to do.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Zach

My divorces don’t make me the authority on women but they make me the authority on what happens when things fall apart. And the truth is, I’m not alone. The majority of divorces are filed by women, and it’s usually not because of abuse or betrayal, it’s because they weren’t happy anymore. That’s not just my story, it’s a trend. With women, “I do” can quickly turn into “I’m done.” That’s not just my story either, that’s the pattern. I’ve lived it, I’ve studied it, and I’ve watched it happen to countless men. You don’t need a theory when you’ve seen the reality up close.

What did their families look like before you married them? I’ll put money on it there was something that was off. I’m asking because more often than not, the family gives you a preview of the person’s values, habits, and what they think “commitment” means. If dysfunction is baked into the foundation, the vows won’t hold up when storms hit. You don’t just marry a woman, you marry where she came from. That part matters more than people want to admit. If her family is foul and trifling, you have to deal with that. The preview should have told you the movie was trash, but you still bought the ticket. And then turned right back around and bought another ticket for the same movie. C’mon, bruh. 😂

That’s why you wait and do your homework.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Did you see how dude was treating it? He was acting like it was a Ferrari or something. All proud, barely drives it, like it’s made of gold. If I was Jay, I’d take that thing straight to McDonald’s, fries in the seat, nuggets in the cup holder, barbecue sauce on the console. And since I don’t know shit about cars, I’d be driving like, So how much did this set your uncle back? Fifteen hundred? What you think you’ll get on a trade-in, maybe two grand if sales dude at the dealer feels generous?

Then when he starts trippin, I’d be leaned up against it drinking a beer like, Brooo… this is an old ass Grand Prix. This is a family car your auntie drove to church. Stop treating it like a Bugatti. Chill, bro.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

So…. I watched some of that video to see what you guys are talking about. It looks like it has a beak, like a parrot on wheels. He mentioned his wife, so if I was his wife and he was dropping me off at work in it, I’d tell him to just drop me off a block away, and I’ll walk. I mean, I’m not about to be seen climbing out of a car that looks like it should be squawking at people. Call it a classic if you want, to me it’s just… like… an old car with a beak? I didn’t get what was so special about it or why it was even on the show. I’m like, really? Why? Just why? I hope Jay didn’t pay that guy. Honestly, I could’ve gone my whole life without ever seeing that car.

😂😂😭😭🤣

Y’all = 0/10 in knowledge on classic cars.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Zach, women don’t just detach for sport. The kind of women you picked clearly didn’t take their vows seriously from the start. That’s not universal, that’s personal. The vows meant something to you, but you gave them to women who didn’t value them the same way. That’s not all women, that’s two bad investments you signed off on.

And you keep framing it like detachment is some mystery that sneaks up on men, but let’s be honest, the women you chose probably showed you who they were long before you married them. What you see in dating and courtship is what you will see married. Their past experiences should have also meant something to you. The problem is you just thought vows would fix what the red flags already showed you. That’s not about women being unpredictable, that’s about you ignoring what was in plain sight.

And another thing too is not every woman who says their vows means covenant. Some mean contract. And if you hand covenant vows to a contract-minded person, it’s always going to end the same way. That’s not proof that marriage is broken, that’s proof that discernment matters more than romance.

And then you’re like “women detach”, and that it’s a pattern. But you kept choosing women who detach. That’s not a female instinct, that’s your dating pool and a pattern on your end. You keep fishing in the same pond and then blaming the water for being muddy, lol. At some point you need to study what kind of patterns you saw before you married them.

Divorce doesn’t just prove women can leave, it proves men and women can choose wrong, and in your case.. Twice.

I couldn’t agree more. 👍🏽

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by bevinpiphi

What do you think turns women from "I do" to "I'm done", because in my observations, it's the actions or nonactions of the men that push them to "I'm done"

Originally Posted by agzg

It's giving "she left me out of nowhere!!" when he hasn't washed his own clothes in a decade and still can't put his fucking socks in the hamper.

Neither one of these posts makes sense. Sounds more like excuses than answers.

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

What did their families look like before you married them? I’ll put money on it there was something that was off. I’m asking because more often than not, the family gives you a preview of the person’s values, habits, and what they think “commitment” means. If dysfunction is baked into the foundation, the vows won’t hold up when storms hit. You don’t just marry a woman, you marry where she came from. That part matters more than people want to admit. If her family is foul and trifling, you have to deal with that. The preview should have told you the movie was trash, but you still bought the ticket. And then turned right back around and bought another ticket for the same movie. C’mon, bruh. 😂

That’s why you wait and do your homework.

This! Thank you. If this isn’t the truth, I don’t know what is.

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

😂😂😭😭🤣

Y’all = 0/10 in knowledge on classic cars.

LOL Bro, you said it yourself that car is a pos. You said you don’t like it either.