What do you feel like saying, right now?

[carnation]

There's a lot more to him than that.

And Epstein had "friends" from both sides, so to speak, and I don't think that politicians from either side care that much. After what some sitting presidents have done, there's no outrage anymore.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by carnation

There's a lot more to him than that.

And Epstein had "friends" from both sides, so to speak, and I don't think that politicians from either side care that much. After what some sitting presidents have done, there's no outrage anymore.

So, I didn’t know he has a Christian Ministry. But I know people who listened to his co-founder (David Jeremiah) or something like that. I guess apparently he was really influential to young people? That’s what people I work with were telling me today. So sad for his children. I just think it’s really sad when kids have to grow up without their father. But I read where he said we need to live with a few mass shootings every year as a society in order to have freedom. I’m like, really? But if it’s your kids, then what? I just don’t understand people like him. I really don’t.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I guess I’m not understanding why Phrozen’s out here getting mortgage-length explanations. At this point I’m expecting AGDee to attach W-2s and bank statements. ��

LOL I was just trying to get clarity on why that makes sense. I just notice patterns how chicks will make decisions in relationships where they end up with the upper hand. It’s just a pattern I’ve observed even in when they choose a partner. Most dudes seem to fall for the same okey-doke every time.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

So, I didn’t know he has a Christian Ministry. But I know people who listened to his co-founder (David Jeremiah) or something like that. I guess apparently he was really influential to young people? That’s what people I work with were telling me today. So sad for his children. I just think it’s really sad when kids have to grow up without their father. But I read where he said we need to live with a few mass shootings every year as a society in order to have freedom. I’m like, really? But if it’s your kids, then what? I just don’t understand people like him. I really don’t.

I haven’t heard very positive things about him. He’s given some negative commentary in the past about George Floyd that I didn’t like. He isn’t any more Christian than the Klan and David Duke claim to be.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

LOL I was just trying to get clarity on why that makes sense. I just notice patterns how chicks will make decisions in relationships where they end up with the upper hand. It’s just a pattern I’ve observed even in when they choose a partner. Most dudes seem to fall for the same okey-doke every time.

I haven’t heard very positive things about him. He’s given some negative commentary in the past about George Floyd that I didn’t like. He isn’t any more Christian than the Klan and David Duke claim to be.

Frankly, I think I'm the only taking the risk. I've sold my house that I almost own outright to uproot my entire life to live on his side of the state with a mortgage higher than the one I have now. Trust me, a 401K grows faster than home equity.

You make it sound like I've made these decisions by myself. These are plans we've made together and will share in. It's going to be months before he can sell his house.

My agzg sister knows and understands what I'm doing and why. We have a ton of legal and financial playing to do. We have to consolidate our homes. He can't qualify for two simultaneous mortgages so he couldn't be on this mortgage right now. Honestly, this isn't even your business. We're sick of driving
5 hours every other weekend to be together so I'm moving to that side of the state. We're working together to get his house in his enough shape to sell it. Then he'll move in and we'll figure out when we want to get married. We have adult children to do estate planning for and he has one who needs lifelong assistance.

I do not make the decisions. He does not matter the decisions. We talk things through and problem solve and figure out what's best for us as a couple. That's why this is going to work.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

https://youtu.be/KIvTMkj_d6s?si=lU564hZlh2O0wTfc

This Jay Leno’s Garage episode made me laugh because it’s me all day. The part where the other guy sees a car that only he or other car guys know is rare and he says “I have to have it”, we (car guys) all say that when we see “THAT car” because of that one thing. So we buy it. That’s me. And when Jay Leno tricks his wife into traveling somewhere that she’s eager to go because it sounds romantic. But when they get there, he tells her he wants to go to this barn. Inside the barn is an old car he wants to look at, maybe to buy. Then his wife figures it out because she know his love of cars…”You just wanted to come out here to look at a car!” That’s also me. The trick eventually doesn’t work anymore. ��

I watched that video. That old ass car is a pos. You like that car, PB? I heard his comments about trying to find other ways to convince the wife so he can buy another car LOL. That’s another reason I won’t marry. Think about it, if you never married, you’d have a motorcycle, and knowing you, more than one. And I know you want one. A guy I work with collects vintage collectibles but he has to sell some of it because his wife complains.

Originally Posted by AGDee

Frankly, I think I'm the only taking the risk. I've sold my house that I almost own outright to uproot my entire life to live on his side of the state with a mortgage higher than the one I have now. Trust me, a 401K grows faster than home equity.

You make it sound like I've made these decisions by myself. These are plans we've made together and will share in. It's going to be months before he can sell his house.

My agzg sister knows and understands what I'm doing and why. We have a ton of legal and financial playing to do. We have to consolidate our homes. He can't qualify for two simultaneous mortgages so he couldn't be on this mortgage right now. Honestly, this isn't even your business. We're sick of driving
5 hours every other weekend to be together so I'm moving to that side of the state. We're working together to get his house in his enough shape to sell it. Then he'll move in and we'll figure out when we want to get married. We have adult children to do estate planning for and he has one who needs lifelong assistance.

I do not make the decisions. He does not matter the decisions. We talk things through and problem solve and figure out what's best for us as a couple. That's why this is going to work.

If I were y’all, I’d just move closer like you’re doing, and stay committed without doing the marriage thing. You don’t have to marry to be together. I work with a lady who’s been with her dude for 30 years without getting married.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

If I were y’all, I’d just move closer like you’re doing, and stay committed without doing the marriage thing. You don’t have to marry to be together. I work with a lady who’s been with her dude for 30 years without getting married.

Having watched too much Judge Judy over the years, I can say getting married is better than not when it comes to eventually possibly breaking up.

[Zach]

I think Phrozen’s on to something here, and I say that as someone who’s lived through it twice. One of the things I’ve learned is that when women detach emotionally, they’re already halfway gone. You usually don’t see it coming because on the surface, everything seems fine. But once that emotional switch flips, it’s over, she’s not working her way back, she’s working her way out. That’s why the stats are what they are. Women file for the majority of divorces, and it’s not usually because of abuse, it’s because they weren’t happy.

And that’s the scary part. You can be faithful, help with bills, do everything you think is right, and still wake up one day blindsided by papers you didn’t expect. To gamble a man’s home, security, and future on the stability of someone else’s emotions, that’s a high risk move. From experience, it’s a risk that can gut you before you even know you’re in trouble.

When emotions run the show, logic doesn’t stand a chance. A man’s house is too much to stake on feelings that can change overnight.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

If I were y’all, I’d just move closer like you’re doing, and stay committed without doing the marriage thing. You don’t have to marry to be together. I work with a lady who’s been with her dude for 30 years without getting married.

I get your point about not needing marriage, but for me it’s even simpler, I don’t bother with dating at all. I’ve been through enough to know women can be a distraction and a liability. Single life is peaceful. No drama, no risk, no bending over backwards just to end up blindsided later. I’ve got my career, my routine, and my freedom. That’s all I need.

The biggest mistake men make is thinking they have to be with someone. They don’t. Peace beats paperwork every time.

Originally Posted by Cheerio

Having watched too much Judge Judy over the years, I can say getting married is better than not when it comes to eventually possibly breaking up.

I’ve been divorced twice. Marriage doesn’t protect men, it drains them. Women file most divorces, and the courts lean their way. Assets, alimony, and a man’s peace of mind go right out the window. So no, staying unmarried is better for the guy, hands down. At least he keeps what’s his without the state getting involved.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

If I were y’all, I’d just move closer like you’re doing, and stay committed without doing the marriage thing. You don’t have to marry to be together. I work with a lady who’s been with her dude for 30 years without getting married.

Buying a house together when you're not married and don't have any legal protections over how to split up that equity if you split up is far worse. However, we aren't going to split up. We're committed for life.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

You’ve lived divorce twice, and I’m sorry you had to go through that, honestly. But the fact you’ve been divorced twice doesn’t make you the authority on women, it just makes you the authority on the two you chose.

LOL!

Originally Posted by AGDee

Buying a house together when you're not married and don't have any legal protections over how to split up that equity if you split up is far worse. However, we aren't going to split up. We're committed for life.

Every couple has good intentions and swears they’ll never split. Many actually promise it at the altar. That’s just how it starts. Good luck, but dopamine is real… for everybody. And the truth is, for most, it wears off. That’s when you find out if you’ve got a real foundation or just chemistry.