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Originally Posted by DubaiSis
And, by the way, that doesn't mean killing the abortionist.
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And no where did I suggest it does, I believe, would the vast majority of those who oppose choice on religious grounds.*
* After posting my earlier post, I realized I should have been more precise in my terminology and said "those who oppose
choice on religious grounds." There are those who oppose abortion on religious grounds but who do not think the government should get involved in the decision.
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But the biggest things that an anti-choice person can do is work to prevent unwanted pregnancy and improve the life of the child who is born from an unwanted pregnancy.
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Amen and amen!
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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp
That's what they say they believe, but it isn't how they act. If each abortion is the exact same thing as shooting a 6-year-old in the head, then it's a moral imperative to put yourself in harm's way to stop it. Actions speak louder than words.
Look how people acted in Newtown when a gunman came to shoot kindergarteners. Every adult in the school threw herself between the bullets and the children, without time to think about it, and they weren't even related to the children. That's what decent people do without hesitation when they see children getting murdered. So if all you do to oppose abortion is vote for a candidate or hand out leaflets, I don't buy that you believe this is the equivalent of shooting a kindergartener in the head. You're acting like it's a pretty bad sin, but a long way from murder.
If there were a legal Auschwitz operating down the street from me instead of an abortion clinic, and 20 minority children were marched into its gas chambers every day, I hope and believe that I'd at LEAST be in jail for chaining myself to its doors.
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That's quite a generalization of what "they" believe and how "they" act. Many abortion protesters have been to jail and court for doing pretty much that very thing, while municipalities and states have enacted laws to prevent protests at abortion clinics. And is it really reason to say "well, they don't
really beleve that" that when "they" see laws they believe legalize murder, they respond by trying to change those laws?
The point is that we have a 40+ history of people on
both sides of this issue (and quite a few others) misunderstanding, mischaracterizing, caricaturing, trivializing or dismissing the opinions and beliefs of those with whom they disagree. And that is one reason why after 40+ years, this is still such a divisive issue in this country.
Just to be clear and in case it matters, I am pro-choice. I think abortion raises serious moral and ethical issues, but I think those issues should be resolved by the woman involved (and the father when appropriate), not by the government or by the community. I find myself agreeing with Hillary Clinton that abortons should be safe, legal and rare.
But there's an old rule of thumb that real dialogue between people who disagree on an issue can never happen until those people can each say to the other "You believe that _______," and state the beliefs of the other in such a way that the other can say "Yes, that's what I believe. You understand me."
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