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Old 06-15-2013, 07:16 PM
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Ironically, you're arguing our point by saying that experiences are what shape a person's attitudes and actions.
No, I'm not "ironically arguing" anyone's point, AST. You've all made valid points. The experiences you are referring to are "walking a mile in someone else's shoes" to gain an understanding of what they have experienced. The experiences I'm referring to are not the same experiences you are referring to. I'm saying that we come into this world like empty computers when we first arrive on the planet earth. No programs have been installed. All we have is the capacity to record and store all the information we receive, which comes from our parents, teachers, relatives, friends, the media, and the environment we grew up in. Positive or negative, that data is based on our observances which makes up our programming. And we print out what we retain (i.e. how we connect with others). Sometimes this is a good thing, sometimes it is not. Those are the "experiences" I was referring to.

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but that it CAN happen,
Never said it couldn't. People can change, but that has to come from within.

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So then there was really no need to just quote her "agreeing to disagree" post since all of you were involved in it..
Did you see me quoting multiple usernames? I said when "two people" (pbear and I) can't agree that it is always wise and beneficial for both people to come to an agreement by agreeing to disagree. She said she doesn't believe in giving up on people like the people we were discussing, which is her prerogative that she is entitled to.

And with your comment about the POTUS, I think every president has had that problem, not just Obama.
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:22 AM
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No, I'm not "ironically arguing" anyone's point, AST. You've all made valid points. The experiences you are referring to are "walking a mile in someone else's shoes" to gain an understanding of what they have experienced. The experiences I'm referring to are not the same experiences you are referring to. I'm saying that we come into this world like empty computers when we first arrive on the planet earth. No programs have been installed. All we have is the capacity to record and store all the information we receive, which comes from our parents, teachers, relatives, friends, the media, and the environment we grew up in. Positive or negative, that data is based on our observances which makes up our programming. And we print out what we retain (i.e. how we connect with others). Sometimes this is a good thing, sometimes it is not. Those are the "experiences" I was referring to.
I agree with this, especially with the media. I like what you said about the computer analogy, I never looked at it from that perspective. I think what you're saying is on a much deeper level than what others were saying, so I stand corrected, you weren't saying the same thing. But I do think people can do away with bad past family experiences, and move on to newer and better things, with a better attitude.
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