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06-14-2013, 03:29 AM
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You lost me on this for a minute, but I get the sarcasm Lol.
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Not to belabor the point, but I think you and Mizeree I2K are missing what folks are trying to say.
I know you have the vending machine business. If you shake a vending machine, it likely starts throwing things out of alignment and will mess up future transactions. When you go to service your machines and notice things look wacky, you may say "Gosh, why do people shake these machines? Now I have to spend time fixing it. I wish they knew what it took to fix these machines so they wouldn't shake them." Does that mean you want every person to own a vending machine at one point in their lives? No, of course not. But, in your state of venting, you do realize that someone who had a similar experience as you (read: owning the machine) would realize what it took to maintain it.
That's all folks are saying. "I wish this asshole knew what it was like being a cashier" is only saying "If you had been a cashier in the past, you probably wouldn't be an asshole right now" -- not "My job sucks and I wish you had to suffer the way I do every day"
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I don't know what Mizeree I2K was trying to point out, because his attitude is not far off from the very same attitudes he's complaining about. Foolish behavior is usually "contagious" to other people who are foolish. i.e. wanting to beat up a customer at Target? Okay.
With me, I'm not missing your point, and you aren't missing mine. We don't agree, that's what it is. I understand that people here are venting. You and I have already discussed that. My point was an "asshole" (if that's what you want to call them) is going to be an "asshole" regardless. They are always right in their own eyes, and that is a character issue. It is a character issue because it is based on that person's experiences long before she/he got to the person she/he is mistreating or being an "asshole" to. These people don't offer much grace for other people's failings or mistakes because they can't relate to anything other than their own experiences (based on how they were raised). And a character is not someone you pretend to be, it is who you are. And that simply is based on years of conditioning, which comes from your parents, teachers, family, friends, etc. and/or who you associate yourself with. So once again, it has very little to do with a receipt, or with the clerk.
All we have when we have completed our lives is the reputation we leave behind. It will remain as a testament not only of who we were, but of who others became because of us.
With my vending machines, I had one that was damaged beyond repair when I was in school. The first thought that went through my mind was not "I wish they knew how expensive it was to maintain these...." My thoughts were that it was someone who was an idiot, who didn't have any home training. Those were my thoughts, not the thoughts you assumed I may have had.
Now, with that said, you can continue to believe what you would like, but my thoughts on this subject are going to remain the same.
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06-14-2013, 11:54 AM
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I thought you were being sarcastic. I get what you mean about people being the way they are based on what they were taught for "birth" (assuming that's what you were trying to say), but that's not what a birthright is. It's more like an inheritance or an entitlement from birth, not what they've been taught.
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06-14-2013, 04:05 PM
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It's more like an inheritance .
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Right. I'm speaking of how you were raised, and what you grew up observing from your family and the environment around you. Your family is not optional. We don't get to choose who these people are (good or bad). Therefore, you will in "inherit" data from your family, past experiences, conversations, and observations, which will greatly influence your decisions as an adult. Your thoughts determine your decisions, and your decisions determine your future and how you interact and connect with others. Get it? This is why I don't believe a woman or a man has to "walk in someone else's shoes" to be respectable to others. If they are rude, it has little, if nothing at all to do with you, because they were already that way before they got to you.
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06-14-2013, 04:18 PM
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This is why I don't believe a woman or a man has to "walk in someone else's shoes" to be respectable to others. If they are rude, it has little, if nothing at all to do with you, because they were already that way before they got to you.
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So new life experiences can't change them in any way? We should all just accept that rude people will always be rude because of the things that have happened in their life previously? I for one am not willing to just give up on people like that. I agree with the others that walking in someone else's shoes can give someone a new perspective they might not have had before.
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06-14-2013, 04:55 PM
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So new life experiences can't change them in any way?
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No one ever has to be stuck because of the people she or he came from, or their past experiences. You will get as much out of your (in general) life as you put into it.
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We should all just accept that rude people will always be rude because of the things that have happened in their life previously?
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You can accept who and whatever you choose to accept. That's your choice. Not mine.
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I for one am not willing to just give up on people like that. I agree with the others that walking in someone else's shoes can give someone a new perspective they might not have had before.
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Okay.
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06-14-2013, 05:08 PM
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No one ever has to be stuck because of the people she or he came from, or their past experiences. You will get as much out of your (in general) life as you put into it.
You can accept who and whatever you choose to accept. That's your choice. Not mine.
Okay.
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Well, now you've just convinced me that you are being willfully obtuse. Either that or you're having a really bad day.
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06-14-2013, 05:22 PM
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Well, now you've just convinced me that you are being willfully obtuse. Either that or you're having a really bad day.
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Actually, I'm having a great day. Although you've raised some great points, I don't think either one of us is being "willfully obtuse" we just don't agree, that's all. When two people can't agree, I think it's always wise and beneficial for both people to agree to disagree.
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