Worst person ever gives Dunkin Donuts workers hell over missing receipt

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

With me, I'm not missing your point, and you aren't missing mine. We don't agree, that's what it is. I understand that people here are venting. You and I have already discussed that. My point was an "asshole" (if that's what you want to call them) is going to be an "asshole" regardless. They are always right in their own eyes, and that is a character issue. It is a character issue because it is based on that person's experiences long before she/he got to the person she/he is mistreating or being an "asshole" to. These people don't offer much grace for other people's failings or mistakes because they can't relate to anything other than their own experiences (based on how they were raised). And a character is not someone you pretend to be, it is who you are. And that simply is based on years of conditioning, which comes from your parents, teachers, family, friends, etc. and/or who you associate yourself with. So once again, it has very little to do with a receipt, or with the clerk.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Right. I'm speaking of how you were raised, and what you grew up observing from your family and the environment around you. Your family is not optional. We don't get to choose who these people are (good or bad). Therefore, you will in "inherit" data from your family, past experiences, conversations, and observations, which will greatly influence your decisions as an adult. Your thoughts determine your decisions, and your decisions determine your future and how you interact and connect with others. Get it? This is why I don't believe a woman or a man has to "walk in someone else's shoes" to be respectable to others. If they are rude, it has little, if nothing at all to do with you, because they were already that way before they got to you.

Ironically, you're arguing our point by saying that experiences are what shape a person's attitudes and actions.

We're not arguing that people HAVE to walk in someone else's shoes to be respectable to others, but that it CAN happen, and that some people are respectful regardless of whether or not they've shared a similar experience.

The end.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

and that some people are respectful regardless of whether or not they've shared a similar experience.

Looks like both of you are saying the same thing here.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

our lives are made up of things or people who have already developed their own belief system from sources in their own particular lives. Essentially, we are all trained to believe what they believe, our mind-set made to reflect their own, and the environment we grew up in.

So what I am saying to you is every last one of us are bits and pieces of every thing and every person we have encountered. Therefore it makes common sense to me that our self-image, self-worth, mental attitude, and self-confidence will rise or fall dependent to a large extent on that of our trainers and the things we are exposed to throughout our lives and this includes the environment we were raised in..

There's really no way around this "oldie but goodie". I'd have gone back and posted this and been done with the entire conversation. I wish I could make it a siggy, because if this isn't the truth then I don't know what is.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

There's really no way around this "oldie but goodie". I'd have gone back and posted this and been done with the entire conversation. I wish I could make it a siggy, because if this isn't the truth then I don't know what is.

Nice avatar.

[Mizeree I2K]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I don't know what Mizeree I2K was trying to point out, because his attitude is not far off from the very same attitudes he's complaining about. Foolish behavior is usually "contagious" to other people who are foolish. i.e. wanting to beat up a customer at Target? Okay.

Not really. My situation wasn't even the same situation as hers. Could I have reacted differently? Probably. But when some dude is in my face like he was, that's a level of disrespect that I can't handle.

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Ironically, you're arguing our point by saying that experiences are what shape a person's attitudes and actions.

LOL @ the fact that you can't see that y'all are talking apples and oranges. You are one dumb female. You should have kept that siggy you once had from DrPhil, because it matched your thought process LOL.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Positive or negative, that data is based on our observances which makes up our programming. And we print out what we retain (i.e. how we connect with others). Sometimes this is a good thing, sometimes it is not. Those are the "experiences" I was referring to.

This part of your post is deep, and I feel you.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

LOL @ the fact that you can't see that y'all are talking apples and oranges. You are one dumb female. You should have kept that siggy you once had from DrPhil, because it matched your thought process LOL.

Oh, ok.....

[Mizeree I2K]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Oh, ok.....

You can come with that all day long. It still doesn't change the fact that you made a dumb assumption. She was "ironically arguing your point?" LOL This reminds me of the time when she was talking about getting a return on her investment in a different thread. When she asked me if I would invest in cheap landscaping equipment, you turned around and asked her how can she compare human beings to landscaping equipment LOL. Like I said, that old DrPhil siggy matched your inattentive dumb ass perfectly.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Looks like both of you are saying the same thing here.

Right... which is why I'm confused as to why we're all supposedly "disagreeing"...

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Actually, I'm having a great day. Although you've raised some great points, I don't think either one of us is being "willfully obtuse" we just don't agree, that's all. When two people can't agree, I think it's always wise and beneficial for both people to agree to disagree.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Right... which is why I'm confused as to why we're all supposedly "disagreeing"...

LOL! When I read the debate I....

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

You're still new, but you'll soon learn what a lot of folks on here and IRL generally respond to. Personality vs principle.

Just because I'm new on here doesn't mean I'm not aware of that simple concept. That's obvious. Pretty much anything that people practice in real life is going to be practiced on here, because we're all real people behind the username. Your comment reminds me of the presidential debates, when Obama said that some people in congress will agree on something, but when he says he agrees with them, those same people who once agreed, now disagree. People are funny like that.

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Right... which is why I'm confused as to why we're all supposedly "disagreeing"...

So then there was really no need to just quote her "agreeing to disagree" post since all of you were involved in it. What you said here without quoting anyone would have been sufficient.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

So then there was really no need to just quote her "agreeing to disagree" post since all of you were involved in it. What you said here without quoting anyone would have been sufficient.

Uh.. what?

"Agreeing to disagree" means that you're disagreeing about something, and...

No.. ya know what... nevermind.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Ironically, you're arguing our point by saying that experiences are what shape a person's attitudes and actions.

No, I'm not "ironically arguing" anyone's point, AST. You've all made valid points. The experiences you are referring to are "walking a mile in someone else's shoes" to gain an understanding of what they have experienced. The experiences I'm referring to are not the same experiences you are referring to. I'm saying that we come into this world like empty computers when we first arrive on the planet earth. No programs have been installed. All we have is the capacity to record and store all the information we receive, which comes from our parents, teachers, relatives, friends, the media, and the environment we grew up in. Positive or negative, that data is based on our observances which makes up our programming. And we print out what we retain (i.e. how we connect with others). Sometimes this is a good thing, sometimes it is not. Those are the "experiences" I was referring to.

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

but that it CAN happen,

Never said it couldn't. People can change, but that has to come from within.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

So then there was really no need to just quote her "agreeing to disagree" post since all of you were involved in it..

Did you see me quoting multiple usernames? I said when "two people" (pbear and I) can't agree that it is always wise and beneficial for both people to come to an agreement by agreeing to disagree. She said she doesn't believe in giving up on people like the people we were discussing, which is her prerogative that she is entitled to.

And with your comment about the POTUS, I think every president has had that problem, not just Obama.