Ohio teens guilty of rape, face year-plus in jail

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

You are missing the point that we discussed ADDING a discussion of consent to a good sex education program.

Oh no, I didn't miss that--I caught that first and completely agree. But it read to me like DBB started with this then moved into "Abstinence only sex ed is partially to blame for what these boys did." That's not how the post started so I asked her to clarify if that's actually what she meant. Her response clarified that wasn't what she meant but when she said...

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

It's a very straight line from there to slut shaming, victim blaming, etc.

...I disagreed with this because it seemed such a big jump but I acknowledge that was a sidebar separate from the original topic.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Right. There's also, when it comes to abstinence-only education, a BIG DIFFERENCE between "abstinence is the only way to be 100% certain that you don't get pregnant or get an STI" and "everyone should 'save' themselves for marriage". The former is a factual statement that should be included in ALL sex-ed, the latter is slut-shaming.

Bingo! Part of the disconnect is we have totally different ideas of "slut-shaming." That second statement is definitely idealistic and not appropriate to push on people unnecessarily in what should be an unbiased arena...but I wouldn't call it "slut-shaming" at all. We were going off different concepts but I totally get where you're coming from now.