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NinjaPoodle 03-17-2013 12:44 PM

Ohio teens guilty of rape, face year-plus in jail
 
Yahoo news
http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-teens-gui...6028--spt.html
STEUBENVILLE, Ohio (AP) — Two members of the high school football team that is the pride of Steubenville were found guilty Sunday of raping a drunken 16-year-old girl in a case that bitterly divided the Rust Belt city and led to accusations of a cover-up to protect the community's athletes.

*click link to read the rest.*

IrishLake 03-17-2013 12:53 PM

Good. The evidence was overwhelmingly against their favor. The real facts (pictures, copies of texts, witness accounts) were made known to the public a week or so ago. These boys were lucky they were tried in a juvenile court.

AOII Angel 03-17-2013 01:03 PM

Parents really need to teach their boys that having sexual contact with a female that is intoxicated is fraught with risk. She may not be able to think clearly enough to consent, and they may rightly be looking at a rape charge. Having sex with a female who is unconscious is unconscionable. The baseline state of consent is NOT yes.

IndianaSigKap 03-17-2013 02:25 PM

Since they were tried as juveniles, will they have to register as sex offenders?

indygphib 03-17-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap (Post 2208617)
Since they were tried as juveniles, will they have to register as sex offenders?

According to this article, yes.

IndianaSigKap 03-17-2013 03:18 PM

Wow, this means that they cannot major in education in college, no coaching for them. They will show up on the sex offender finder online in their dorms, I am sure the co-eds will not be thrilled. Can't play football in college bc they can't be in a locker room with any player who might not be 18 yet. They never thought about the ramifications of their actions one bit, I am sure they never pictured it ending up like this. I know that poor girl will never be the same, but I hope the decision brings her some peace.

DeltaBetaBaby 03-17-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2208612)
Parents really need to teach their boys that having sexual contact with a female that is intoxicated is fraught with risk. She may not be able to think clearly enough to consent, and they may rightly be looking at a rape charge. Having sex with a female who is unconscious is unconscionable. The baseline state of consent is NOT yes.

I'm a believer that SCHOOLS should teach this stuff, as well. Abstinence-only sex ed is such a failure, and even the states with real sex ed are teaching how to avoid pregnancy and STI's. Enthusiastic consent and how to talk about sex with your partner really needs to be part of the curriculum.

Munchkin03 03-17-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2208627)
I'm a believer that SCHOOLS should teach this stuff, as well. Abstinence-only sex ed is such a failure, and even the states with real sex ed are teaching how to avoid pregnancy and STI's. Enthusiastic consent and how to talk about sex with your partner really needs to be part of the curriculum.

After an early 90s lawsuit, my college teaches this as part of orientation. Obviously it needs to be taught earlier, but it's a good start.

AOII Angel 03-17-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2208627)
I'm a believer that SCHOOLS should teach this stuff, as well. Abstinence-only sex ed is such a failure, and even the states with real sex ed are teaching how to avoid pregnancy and STI's. Enthusiastic consent and how to talk about sex with your partner really needs to be part of the curriculum.

I agree whole heartedly with you.

DeltaBetaBaby 03-17-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2208643)
I agree whole heartedly with you.

Plus, I'm a fan of good sex, and that's a nice side effect of "yes means yes". Sadly, the same forces who want abstinence only are also opposed to the idea that sex is fun.

AOII Angel 03-17-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2208646)
Plus, I'm a fan of good sex, and that's a nice side effect of "yes means yes". Sadly, the same forces who want abstinence only are also opposed to the idea that sex is fun.

Yes, and many times they are the same group that think that women are asking to be raped.

DubaiSis 03-17-2013 06:34 PM

Well, you know the human body has a way of shutting that whole thing down...

StealthMode 03-17-2013 07:02 PM

1. DBB are you seriously blaming abstinence-only sex ed for this? While I agree that sex ed should definitely include consent and open communication between partners/potential partners, I have a hard time believing the former is actually what you're implying because that's such a big jump. Please clarify.

2. I didn't realize that "digital penetration" counted as part of the definition of rape. I thought it would fall under molestation or lewd acts but, as it is some type of penetration, that makes sense. Legal buffs, has it always been included?

MysticCat 03-17-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by StealthMode (Post 2208657)
I didn't realize that "digital penetration" counted as part of the definition of rape. I thought it would fall under molestation or lewd acts but, as it is some type of penetration, that makes sense. Legal buffs, has it always been included?

What constitutes rape varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and has, as I understand it, varied throughout history.

Munchkin03 03-17-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StealthMode (Post 2208657)

2. I didn't realize that "digital penetration" counted as part of the definition of rape. I thought it would fall under molestation or lewd acts but, as it is some type of penetration, that makes sense. Legal buffs, has it always been included?

In most of the articles I've read about this, digital penetration is considered rape in Ohio.


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