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Old 07-27-2010, 07:00 PM
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You're right. I don't know if you have seen in the news lately that there are extremely violent drug cartels in Mexico. They are / have been trying to push their violence into the US. The best way to stop it is to stop them at the border. There are also those Mexican citizens who have nothing to do with the drug violence, but because they 'all look alike', everyone becomes suspect. Is it right / fair? No, but that is what is happening. Also, I'm sure that if there were just as bad drug cartels coming out of Canada, there would be efforts to try to secure the US/Canadian border, who knows.
So, for this reason and other reasons, country of origin and race and ethnicity do matter. This isn't just an issue of illegal immigration and people need to stop pretending as though there is equality in the illegal immigration debate.

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Old 07-27-2010, 08:05 PM
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So, for this reason and other reasons, country of origin and race and ethnicity do matter. This isn't just an issue of illegal immigration and people need to stop pretending as though there is equality in the illegal immigration debate.
This is exactly my point from earlier in the discussion. You all have laid out the issues quite clearly.

Besides the 'crime' issue, its also about jobs. 'They' are taking 'our' jobs, so 'they' have to go. Sound familiar?
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:56 AM
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So, for this reason and other reasons, country of origin and race and ethnicity do matter. This isn't just an issue of illegal immigration and people need to stop pretending as though there is equality in the illegal immigration debate.
In regards to this comment, and after reading PiKA2001 comment, I have found that the biggest issue is money. And, as you know, in many contexts possession of money and race / ethnic origin are (loosely) correlated.

So, I disagree with you - there is equality in the illegal immigration debate. The inequality occurs whether or not that immigrant can afford the time and filing fees / attorneys to become legal.
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