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Originally Posted by preciousjeni
I'm with you except for the underlined sentence. If by "probate" you mean a "show" while you're still pledging, it still happens, and often. Perhaps we're talking about different things now.
To me, a literal probate is what people now call a surfacing. And, what we refer to as probates now are coming out shows.
I don't like the idea of surfacing because it does little more than give you the impetus to continue pledging right before things get really bad.
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Yep what you call surfacing was once called probate.
And yes I can believe some people still do it. Does not take away from the fact that not posting doesn't for the most part have anything to do with respect, but because of the broad definition of hazing as adopted by the NPHC, if anything were to happen between surfacing/probate show and from when Grad Chapter/regionals/nationals receives said information that the people participating are members of the organization...it is evidence if something happens between that time.
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