House passes health care bill on 219-212 vote

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

What is Ghostwriter talking about?

And, going with the gang mentality, are you part of the rival gang now?

Because CLEARLY we've all lost our individuality and are buddy buddy since we happen to post within minutes and hours of each other and type similar things.

the true face of GC

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And, going with the gang mentality, are you part of the rival gang now?

Originally Posted by epchick

There effin' better not be without me being included in these discussion. Now I know what I miss when I don't go into chat......Damn.

lol

[DaemonSeid]

^^^^ I was gonna go there....LOL

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

^^^^ I was gonna go there....LOL

Our groupthink in acton

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Do you think they aren't "spitting" mad because they feel this is a good compromise or a good start?

I feel as though people want quick fixes and overnight remedies for everything. For example, people acted like Obama was going to end the recession and the war. The smart people realize that these things are compromises and good starts. Or, they can be complete FAILS but you never know until it either succeeds or fails.

For a lot of those people, the bill isn't a good start. If you listen to them talk, they are pretty angry, but it doesn't go beyond normal civil discourse. There is a faction in this country that is very anti-private insurance, and any bill that mandates every citizen buy a private insurance policy is borderline evil. You might remember hearing about them when they were completely locked out of discussion early in the debate when a single payer system was ruled out. These people are not appeased.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by als463

I agree with you. I loved the tanning bed at my apartment complex in college. In fact, one of the things that drew me to renting from them is that they had a free tanning bed you could use once a day. Now, I have a friend who has skin cancer and I'm re-thinking the tanning beds. I do know, however, that the spray-tan can make you streaky.

I do agree that tanning is a major issue we need to keep close eye on.

Nuetrogena spray mist. I have olive skin and tend to turn orange when spray tanned but this stuff hasn't failed me yet. It won't make you "tan" but you'll look like you have a healthy glow-no streaks, no orange. Also no skin cancer.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

First bold- YES! I am a doctor, but first I am a patient. You have to be your own advocate. Doctors are human. We make mistakes. We have biases. Don't take it if a doctor gets "butt hurt" if you see someone else if they weren't available. My neurologist did that to me and actually YELLED at me while I had a migraine. I never went back to him again. It was unprofessional, and I can find a new neurologist that will treat me with respect. Even physicians get the run around when they become patients. It is hard to be a patient...even harder when you don't know what you are getting yourself into, so educate yourself!

Second bold...ahhh, Alaska!

There was such a huge difference in the city (Anchorage/Fairbanks) and the tiny clinics that serve a huge region. Did I get good care? Yes, it was amazing, you have to be a jack of all trades, master of none, and you can't be a d-bag because of how small the community is. I'm not looking forward to getting sick when I'm in the field this summer, but if I do I know Family Medical Center in Delta Junction is going to follow up, see me even if they are swamped or about to close (my site was 30+ miles away and I had no car), and deal with my out of state insurance hassle.

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Nuetrogena spray mist. I have olive skin and tend to turn orange when spray tanned but this stuff hasn't failed me yet. It won't make you "tan" but you'll look like you have a healthy glow-no streaks, no orange. Also no skin cancer.

I have a healthy glow, it is called what I was born with. It is the perfect genetic recombination of all my background and God created me the way I need to be and it doesn't involve me harming myself or staining my clothes. Jesus Christ Super Star people, LOVE THE SKIN YOU CAME IN.

[Kappamd]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

There was such a huge difference in the city (Anchorage/Fairbanks) and the tiny clinics that serve a huge region. Did I get good care? Yes, it was amazing, you have to be a jack of all trades, master of none, and you can't be a d-bag because of how small the community is. I'm not looking forward to getting sick when I'm in the field this summer, but if I do I know Family Medical Center in Delta Junction is going to follow up, see me even if they are swamped or about to close (my site was 30+ miles away and I had no car), and deal with my out of state insurance hassle.



I have a healthy glow, it is called what I was born with. It is the perfect genetic recombination of all my background and God created me the way I need to be and it doesn't involve me harming myself or staining my clothes. Jesus Christ Super Star people, LOVE THE SKIN YOU CAME IN.

AMEN!

And this is coming from someone who practically glows in the dark because I'm just THAT pale.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

There was such a huge difference in the city (Anchorage/Fairbanks) and the tiny clinics that serve a huge region. Did I get good care? Yes, it was amazing, you have to be a jack of all trades, master of none, and you can't be a d-bag because of how small the community is. I'm not looking forward to getting sick when I'm in the field this summer, but if I do I know Family Medical Center in Delta Junction is going to follow up, see me even if they are swamped or about to close (my site was 30+ miles away and I had no car), and deal with my out of state insurance hassle.



I have a healthy glow, it is called what I was born with. It is the perfect genetic recombination of all my background and God created me the way I need to be and it doesn't involve me harming myself or staining my clothes. Jesus Christ Super Star people, LOVE THE SKIN YOU CAME IN.

Whoa there, chill out. Jesus Christ Super Star it's only a spray tan. It's cheaper than hair dye and much less permanent. Do you not like yourself if you wear make up?

PS-I've yet to stain any of my clothes/towels/bathrobes. $10 for a can that lasts a month and is just sprayed on after you shower. It even smells nice.

[Kappamd]

I think she's just making the point that the lengths some people go to just for a tan are slightly ridiculous. And they are.

EVERYONE in this thread needs to chill out.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

I think she's just making the point that the lengths some people go to just for a tan are slightly ridiculous. And they are.

EVERYONE in this thread needs to chill out.

Tanning beds are since they cause cancer. I'm confused as to how a spray tan is different from make up or hair prodcuts.

[Kappamd]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Tanning beds are since they cause cancer. I'm confused as to how a spray tan is different from make up or hair prodcuts.

I don't think she said they were. And I'm not going to pretend I know what Vandalsquirrel's views on makeup are, lol.

Bottom line: tanning beds are stupid and I wholeheartedly agree with the tanning tax. If you are going to knowingly engage in behavior that has been shown to increase your risk of disease, and thus burdening our healthcare system, you SHOULD have to pay more.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

I don't think she said they were. And I'm not going to pretend I know what Vandalsquirrel's views on makeup are, lol.

Bottom line: tanning beds are stupid and I wholeheartedly agree with the tanning tax. If you are going to knowingly engage in behavior that has been shown to increase your risk of disease, and thus burdening our healthcare system, you SHOULD have to pay more.

Yep agree on the dangerous tans. Huge fan of the safe ones.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Whoa there, chill out. Jesus Christ Super Star it's only a spray tan. It's cheaper than hair dye and much less permanent. Do you not like yourself if you wear make up?

PS-I've yet to stain any of my clothes/towels/bathrobes. $10 for a can that lasts a month and is just sprayed on after you shower. It even smells nice.

I don't change my whole skin tone with makeup. Anyone who wears face makeup should be matching their skin tone, or well, they'd be a clown. My point, which you completely missed, is that you are changing your skin color, and I quote you, to have a "healthy glow." The point Kappamd I think is agreeing with me on, is that we, the unsprayed, are quite healthy just the way we are. If you don't see the difference between foundation that matches one natural skin tone, and spraying your whole body with a completely different color, I can't help you.

Originally Posted by Kappamd

I think she's just making the point that the lengths some people go to just for a tan are slightly ridiculous. And they are.

EVERYONE in this thread needs to chill out.

It isn't "tan" alone, it is making changes in the name of health, when the fumes probably aren't that great either, I wouldn't know because I find happy with my skin tone and color, because it is exactly how it is meant to be. I have scars and pigment issues I don't cover up, and I just think the implications of saying "I need some color" or "I have a healthy glow" have social and health ramifications people don't think about. Healthy glow to me isn't a sun or spray tan, but another activity entirely...

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Tanning beds are since they cause cancer. I'm confused as to how a spray tan is different from make up or hair prodcuts.

The roll eyes nice, and for your information I wear "makeup" that has sunscreen in it, as well as hair products with sun protectant. I just don't understand why people can't like who they are and see "natural" as healthy, across the whole spectrum. So many women change their hair with risk and exposure to chemicals, their skin with all types of sun exposure and chemicals, and it really boggles my mind. If I was meant to be a different shade of hair or skin color/tone, or eye color, I would have been born that way.

Originally Posted by Kappamd

I don't think she said they were. And I'm not going to pretend I know what Vandalsquirrel's views on makeup are, lol.

Bottom line: tanning beds are stupid and I wholeheartedly agree with the tanning tax. If you are going to knowingly engage in behavior that has been shown to increase your risk of disease, and thus burdening our healthcare system, you SHOULD have to pay more.

I wear it for sun protection, it just stays on my face better than sunscreen when topped with UV protectant powder. I do outside work in the field all summer and I've actually worn makeup because it stays on better with the wind, sweat and rain. It seemed crazy but it worked and that's when I wear the most, when I can't shower and rely on face wipes.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

And this is coming from someone who practically glows in the dark because I'm just THAT pale.

I just had a flashback of Amanda from ANTM (C3) singing "I'm so white I glow on my own, I'm so white I glow on my own...."

BTW There's a tanning lotion ad above this page now. Good job, guys.

*sigh* I'll go back and read through this thread when I have more energy.

ETA:

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Healthy glow to me isn't a sun or spray tan, but another activity entirely...