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[Kappamd]

I think she's just making the point that the lengths some people go to just for a tan are slightly ridiculous. And they are.

EVERYONE in this thread needs to chill out.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

I think she's just making the point that the lengths some people go to just for a tan are slightly ridiculous. And they are.

EVERYONE in this thread needs to chill out.

Tanning beds are since they cause cancer. I'm confused as to how a spray tan is different from make up or hair prodcuts.

[Kappamd]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Tanning beds are since they cause cancer. I'm confused as to how a spray tan is different from make up or hair prodcuts.

I don't think she said they were. And I'm not going to pretend I know what Vandalsquirrel's views on makeup are, lol.

Bottom line: tanning beds are stupid and I wholeheartedly agree with the tanning tax. If you are going to knowingly engage in behavior that has been shown to increase your risk of disease, and thus burdening our healthcare system, you SHOULD have to pay more.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

I don't think she said they were. And I'm not going to pretend I know what Vandalsquirrel's views on makeup are, lol.

Bottom line: tanning beds are stupid and I wholeheartedly agree with the tanning tax. If you are going to knowingly engage in behavior that has been shown to increase your risk of disease, and thus burdening our healthcare system, you SHOULD have to pay more.

Yep agree on the dangerous tans. Huge fan of the safe ones.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Whoa there, chill out. Jesus Christ Super Star it's only a spray tan. It's cheaper than hair dye and much less permanent. Do you not like yourself if you wear make up?

PS-I've yet to stain any of my clothes/towels/bathrobes. $10 for a can that lasts a month and is just sprayed on after you shower. It even smells nice.

I don't change my whole skin tone with makeup. Anyone who wears face makeup should be matching their skin tone, or well, they'd be a clown. My point, which you completely missed, is that you are changing your skin color, and I quote you, to have a "healthy glow." The point Kappamd I think is agreeing with me on, is that we, the unsprayed, are quite healthy just the way we are. If you don't see the difference between foundation that matches one natural skin tone, and spraying your whole body with a completely different color, I can't help you.

Originally Posted by Kappamd

I think she's just making the point that the lengths some people go to just for a tan are slightly ridiculous. And they are.

EVERYONE in this thread needs to chill out.

It isn't "tan" alone, it is making changes in the name of health, when the fumes probably aren't that great either, I wouldn't know because I find happy with my skin tone and color, because it is exactly how it is meant to be. I have scars and pigment issues I don't cover up, and I just think the implications of saying "I need some color" or "I have a healthy glow" have social and health ramifications people don't think about. Healthy glow to me isn't a sun or spray tan, but another activity entirely...

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Tanning beds are since they cause cancer. I'm confused as to how a spray tan is different from make up or hair prodcuts.

The roll eyes nice, and for your information I wear "makeup" that has sunscreen in it, as well as hair products with sun protectant. I just don't understand why people can't like who they are and see "natural" as healthy, across the whole spectrum. So many women change their hair with risk and exposure to chemicals, their skin with all types of sun exposure and chemicals, and it really boggles my mind. If I was meant to be a different shade of hair or skin color/tone, or eye color, I would have been born that way.

Originally Posted by Kappamd

I don't think she said they were. And I'm not going to pretend I know what Vandalsquirrel's views on makeup are, lol.

Bottom line: tanning beds are stupid and I wholeheartedly agree with the tanning tax. If you are going to knowingly engage in behavior that has been shown to increase your risk of disease, and thus burdening our healthcare system, you SHOULD have to pay more.

I wear it for sun protection, it just stays on my face better than sunscreen when topped with UV protectant powder. I do outside work in the field all summer and I've actually worn makeup because it stays on better with the wind, sweat and rain. It seemed crazy but it worked and that's when I wear the most, when I can't shower and rely on face wipes.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I don't change my whole skin tone with makeup. Anyone who wears face makeup should be matching their skin tone, or well, they'd be a clown. My point, which you completely missed, is that you are changing your skin color, and I quote you, to have a "healthy glow." The point Kappamd I think is agreeing with me on, is that we, the unsprayed, are quite healthy just the way we are. If you don't see the difference between foundation that matches one natural skin tone, and spraying your whole body with a completely different color, I can't help you.



It isn't "tan" alone, it is making changes in the name of health, when the fumes probably aren't that great either, I wouldn't know because I find happy with my skin tone and color, because it is exactly how it is meant to be. I have scars and pigment issues I don't cover up, and I just think the implications of saying "I need some color" or "I have a healthy glow" have social and health ramifications people don't think about. Healthy glow to me isn't a sun or spray tan, but another activity entirely...



The roll eyes nice, and for your information I wear "makeup" that has sunscreen in it, as well as hair products with sun protectant. I just don't understand why people can't like who they are and see "natural" as healthy, across the whole spectrum. So many women change their hair with risk and exposure to chemicals, their skin with all types of sun exposure and chemicals, and it really boggles my mind. If I was meant to be a different shade of hair or skin color/tone, or eye color, I would have been born that way.



I wear it for sun protection, it just stays on my face better than sunscreen when topped with UV protectant powder. I do outside work in the field all summer and I've actually worn makeup because it stays on better with the wind, sweat and rain. It seemed crazy but it worked and that's when I wear the most, when I can't shower and rely on face wipes.

I guess what I don't understand is such a harsh judgement of others just because they use spray tan when young women today face WAY more important issues that pressure them into, for instance, "real" tanning, anorexia, bulimia, extreme cosmetic surgeries, etc. Just food for thought, but for your information I have horrible scars all over my shins. It's a random skin condition and dermatologists have told me short of lasers and such it's just going to be there, but they aren't hurting anything and don't indicate any actual disease. They look like mild burn scars. Spray tan doesn't hide them in the least, and yes I frequently wear shorts and skirts. I can't imagine why the self righteous attitude towards women that enjoy making themselves look good in their own eyes in healthy ways is necessary. Taking pride in one's appearance is in no way a betrayal, and every individual has individual tastes. Your make up is in no way different from a can of spray mist from CVS, and your personal preferences to pay no attention to your appearance are certainly valid and comfortable to you, but are PERSONAL and not superior to the preferences of those who enjoy make up, hair products, spray mist, nail polish, etc. Making women (or men for that matter) feel bad about a little primping is ridiculous.

By the way, if a spray tan results in a "whole different skin color" then it isn't correctly done, and no spray mist you buy at the drugstore can do that. You won't find someone more adamantly against tanning beds than I, or someone more confused than I as to why is it such a heinous crime against woman hood to enjoy doing my nails, a spray mist, fun eyeshadows, and curling my hair when I have some free time. It's fun, makes me happy, and is a much healthier pursuit than many others I could participate in.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

By the way, if a spray tan results in a "whole different skin color" then it isn't correctly done

This is not directly towards you, but if I get a spray tan and I'm not a different color, I'd be PISSED. I'm white to begin with and if I'm the same 'color' after the spray tan, what's the point? The point is to get that bronze/brown color, not to look the same.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I guess what I don't understand is such a harsh judgement of others just because they use spray tan when young women today face WAY more important issues that pressure them into, for instance, "real" tanning, anorexia, bulimia, extreme cosmetic surgeries, etc. Just food for thought, but for your information I have horrible scars all over my shins. It's a random skin condition and dermatologists have told me short of lasers and such it's just going to be there, but they aren't hurting anything and don't indicate any actual disease. They look like mild burn scars. Spray tan doesn't hide them in the least, and yes I frequently wear shorts and skirts. I can't imagine why the self righteous attitude towards women that enjoy making themselves look good in their own eyes in healthy ways is necessary. Taking pride in one's appearance is in no way a betrayal, and every individual has individual tastes. Your make up is in no way different from a can of spray mist from CVS, and your personal preferences to pay no attention to your appearance are certainly valid and comfortable to you, but are PERSONAL and not superior to the preferences of those who enjoy make up, hair products, spray mist, nail polish, etc. Making women (or men for that matter) feel bad about a little primping is ridiculous.

By the way, if a spray tan results in a "whole different skin color" then it isn't correctly done, and no spray mist you buy at the drugstore can do that. You won't find someone more adamantly against tanning beds than I, or someone more confused than I as to why is it such a heinous crime against woman hood to enjoy doing my nails, a spray mist, fun eyeshadows, and curling my hair when I have some free time. It's fun, makes me happy, and is a much healthier pursuit than many others I could participate in.

Maybe now you don't need to take things so personally. No one said anything harsh. You're reading your own bias into their comments. They just don't think you have to look golden to look healthy. Get over it...it's a difference of opinion not a judgement of your worth as a person.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I guess what I don't understand is such a harsh judgement of others just because they use spray tan when young women today face WAY more important issues that pressure them into, for instance, "real" tanning, anorexia, bulimia, extreme cosmetic surgeries, etc. Just food for thought, but for your information I have horrible scars all over my shins. It's a random skin condition and dermatologists have told me short of lasers and such it's just going to be there, but they aren't hurting anything and don't indicate any actual disease. They look like mild burn scars. Spray tan doesn't hide them in the least, and yes I frequently wear shorts and skirts. I can't imagine why the self righteous attitude towards women that enjoy making themselves look good in their own eyes in healthy ways is necessary. Taking pride in one's appearance is in no way a betrayal, and every individual has individual tastes. Your make up is in no way different from a can of spray mist from CVS, and your personal preferences to pay no attention to your appearance are certainly valid and comfortable to you, but are PERSONAL and not superior to the preferences of those who enjoy make up, hair products, spray mist, nail polish, etc. Making women (or men for that matter) feel bad about a little primping is ridiculous.

By the way, if a spray tan results in a "whole different skin color" then it isn't correctly done, and no spray mist you buy at the drugstore can do that. You won't find someone more adamantly against tanning beds than I, or someone more confused than I as to why is it such a heinous crime against woman hood to enjoy doing my nails, a spray mist, fun eyeshadows, and curling my hair when I have some free time. It's fun, makes me happy, and is a much healthier pursuit than many others I could participate in.

You can seriously make NO connection to outward personal appearance and the issues you mentioned, not one? If you're feeling bad as a result of my post, maybe you need to figure out how some anonymous person on line can do that if you take so much pride in all of these things to make yourself look and feel good. Have you never seen an orange person outside of a Willy Wonka movie?

You are still completely missing the point, and I'm glad other people are getting it because I thought I wasn't making myself clear. And no, a spray can tan is not the same as UV protection, sorry.

Healthy glow, your words, not mine.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by Kappamd

And this is coming from someone who practically glows in the dark because I'm just THAT pale.

I just had a flashback of Amanda from ANTM (C3) singing "I'm so white I glow on my own, I'm so white I glow on my own...."

BTW There's a tanning lotion ad above this page now. Good job, guys.

*sigh* I'll go back and read through this thread when I have more energy.

ETA:

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Healthy glow to me isn't a sun or spray tan, but another activity entirely...