House passes health care bill on 219-212 vote

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I don't change my whole skin tone with makeup. Anyone who wears face makeup should be matching their skin tone, or well, they'd be a clown. My point, which you completely missed, is that you are changing your skin color, and I quote you, to have a "healthy glow." The point Kappamd I think is agreeing with me on, is that we, the unsprayed, are quite healthy just the way we are. If you don't see the difference between foundation that matches one natural skin tone, and spraying your whole body with a completely different color, I can't help you.



It isn't "tan" alone, it is making changes in the name of health, when the fumes probably aren't that great either, I wouldn't know because I find happy with my skin tone and color, because it is exactly how it is meant to be. I have scars and pigment issues I don't cover up, and I just think the implications of saying "I need some color" or "I have a healthy glow" have social and health ramifications people don't think about. Healthy glow to me isn't a sun or spray tan, but another activity entirely...



The roll eyes nice, and for your information I wear "makeup" that has sunscreen in it, as well as hair products with sun protectant. I just don't understand why people can't like who they are and see "natural" as healthy, across the whole spectrum. So many women change their hair with risk and exposure to chemicals, their skin with all types of sun exposure and chemicals, and it really boggles my mind. If I was meant to be a different shade of hair or skin color/tone, or eye color, I would have been born that way.



I wear it for sun protection, it just stays on my face better than sunscreen when topped with UV protectant powder. I do outside work in the field all summer and I've actually worn makeup because it stays on better with the wind, sweat and rain. It seemed crazy but it worked and that's when I wear the most, when I can't shower and rely on face wipes.

I guess what I don't understand is such a harsh judgement of others just because they use spray tan when young women today face WAY more important issues that pressure them into, for instance, "real" tanning, anorexia, bulimia, extreme cosmetic surgeries, etc. Just food for thought, but for your information I have horrible scars all over my shins. It's a random skin condition and dermatologists have told me short of lasers and such it's just going to be there, but they aren't hurting anything and don't indicate any actual disease. They look like mild burn scars. Spray tan doesn't hide them in the least, and yes I frequently wear shorts and skirts. I can't imagine why the self righteous attitude towards women that enjoy making themselves look good in their own eyes in healthy ways is necessary. Taking pride in one's appearance is in no way a betrayal, and every individual has individual tastes. Your make up is in no way different from a can of spray mist from CVS, and your personal preferences to pay no attention to your appearance are certainly valid and comfortable to you, but are PERSONAL and not superior to the preferences of those who enjoy make up, hair products, spray mist, nail polish, etc. Making women (or men for that matter) feel bad about a little primping is ridiculous.

By the way, if a spray tan results in a "whole different skin color" then it isn't correctly done, and no spray mist you buy at the drugstore can do that. You won't find someone more adamantly against tanning beds than I, or someone more confused than I as to why is it such a heinous crime against woman hood to enjoy doing my nails, a spray mist, fun eyeshadows, and curling my hair when I have some free time. It's fun, makes me happy, and is a much healthier pursuit than many others I could participate in.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

By the way, if a spray tan results in a "whole different skin color" then it isn't correctly done

This is not directly towards you, but if I get a spray tan and I'm not a different color, I'd be PISSED. I'm white to begin with and if I'm the same 'color' after the spray tan, what's the point? The point is to get that bronze/brown color, not to look the same.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I guess what I don't understand is such a harsh judgement of others just because they use spray tan when young women today face WAY more important issues that pressure them into, for instance, "real" tanning, anorexia, bulimia, extreme cosmetic surgeries, etc. Just food for thought, but for your information I have horrible scars all over my shins. It's a random skin condition and dermatologists have told me short of lasers and such it's just going to be there, but they aren't hurting anything and don't indicate any actual disease. They look like mild burn scars. Spray tan doesn't hide them in the least, and yes I frequently wear shorts and skirts. I can't imagine why the self righteous attitude towards women that enjoy making themselves look good in their own eyes in healthy ways is necessary. Taking pride in one's appearance is in no way a betrayal, and every individual has individual tastes. Your make up is in no way different from a can of spray mist from CVS, and your personal preferences to pay no attention to your appearance are certainly valid and comfortable to you, but are PERSONAL and not superior to the preferences of those who enjoy make up, hair products, spray mist, nail polish, etc. Making women (or men for that matter) feel bad about a little primping is ridiculous.

By the way, if a spray tan results in a "whole different skin color" then it isn't correctly done, and no spray mist you buy at the drugstore can do that. You won't find someone more adamantly against tanning beds than I, or someone more confused than I as to why is it such a heinous crime against woman hood to enjoy doing my nails, a spray mist, fun eyeshadows, and curling my hair when I have some free time. It's fun, makes me happy, and is a much healthier pursuit than many others I could participate in.

Maybe now you don't need to take things so personally. No one said anything harsh. You're reading your own bias into their comments. They just don't think you have to look golden to look healthy. Get over it...it's a difference of opinion not a judgement of your worth as a person.

[honeychile]

I have been to tanning beds twice in my life. Why? To go from pasty white to off white. What did I pay for it? Skin cancer. Needless to say, I'm totally against tanning beds.

That said, I'm against the tax on them. It's easy to tax something that doesn't directly affect you, but then there's a tax on something else, then something else, until finally, you're taxed outrageously for something.

Let's not get our kicks on yet another new tax, people.



[Okay, my inner Libertarian came out to play - doesn't mean I don't believe it!]

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I guess what I don't understand is such a harsh judgement of others just because they use spray tan when young women today face WAY more important issues that pressure them into, for instance, "real" tanning, anorexia, bulimia, extreme cosmetic surgeries, etc. Just food for thought, but for your information I have horrible scars all over my shins. It's a random skin condition and dermatologists have told me short of lasers and such it's just going to be there, but they aren't hurting anything and don't indicate any actual disease. They look like mild burn scars. Spray tan doesn't hide them in the least, and yes I frequently wear shorts and skirts. I can't imagine why the self righteous attitude towards women that enjoy making themselves look good in their own eyes in healthy ways is necessary. Taking pride in one's appearance is in no way a betrayal, and every individual has individual tastes. Your make up is in no way different from a can of spray mist from CVS, and your personal preferences to pay no attention to your appearance are certainly valid and comfortable to you, but are PERSONAL and not superior to the preferences of those who enjoy make up, hair products, spray mist, nail polish, etc. Making women (or men for that matter) feel bad about a little primping is ridiculous.

By the way, if a spray tan results in a "whole different skin color" then it isn't correctly done, and no spray mist you buy at the drugstore can do that. You won't find someone more adamantly against tanning beds than I, or someone more confused than I as to why is it such a heinous crime against woman hood to enjoy doing my nails, a spray mist, fun eyeshadows, and curling my hair when I have some free time. It's fun, makes me happy, and is a much healthier pursuit than many others I could participate in.

You can seriously make NO connection to outward personal appearance and the issues you mentioned, not one? If you're feeling bad as a result of my post, maybe you need to figure out how some anonymous person on line can do that if you take so much pride in all of these things to make yourself look and feel good. Have you never seen an orange person outside of a Willy Wonka movie?

You are still completely missing the point, and I'm glad other people are getting it because I thought I wasn't making myself clear. And no, a spray can tan is not the same as UV protection, sorry.

Healthy glow, your words, not mine.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Have you never seen an orange person outside of a Willy Wonka movie?

Don't be hatin' on their healthy glow.

[DrPhil]

Why do people do that to themselves? It looks like a spectacle...sometimes it almost looks like a mockery of something (other than their skin).

I'm against (intentional) tans whether they are sun or tanning salon. Sun tanning sometimes has the cute and healthy glow but it often doesn't, as far as I'm concerned. That's my personal bias.

Random:
I've probably told this story over the years, but I remember when crazy college co-eds really started crowding Jamaica and Cancun for Spring Break. I remember one white guy came back really tanned, with his hair cornrowed and with beads, and with a Bob Marley shirt on. Trendy middle-upper class vacationing, indeed. He told my light skinnedededed friend "hey, I'm Blacker than you are now." My friend said "yeah...holla at me when you can't get a job because of that shit."

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Why do people do that to themselves? It looks like a spectacle...sometimes it almost looks like a mockery of something (other than their skin).

I'm against (intentional) tans whether they are sun or tanning salon. Sun tanning sometimes has the cute and healthy glow but it often doesn't, as far as I'm concerned. That's my personal bias.

Random:
I've probably told this story over the years, but I remember when crazy college co-eds really started crowding Jamaica and Cancun for Spring Break. I remember one white guy came back really tanned, with his hair dred loc'd and with beads, and with a Bob Marley shirt on. Trendy middle-upper class vacationing, indeed. He told my light skinnedededed friend "hey, I'm Blacker than you are now." My friend said "yeah...holla at me when you can't get a job because of that shit."

Why did that make me think of this thread? http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=39813

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Why did that make me think of this thread? http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=39813

Just now seeing this.

Glad those light-skinned mofos never came back in style.

#TeamDarkness

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

#TeamDarkness

Darkness!

[KSUViolet06]

Tanning scares me.

I have a friend who was once pale. She started going tannning about a month before prom.

Then the day of our prom, she held her arm up to mine and said, "We're the probably the same color now."

She was right.

So scary.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Just now seeing this.

Glad those light-skinned mofos never came back in style.

#TeamDarkness

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

Darkness!

I'm not going to lie that in my Spike Lee film class when Charlie Murphy came on in Mo' Better Blues and Jungle Fever I almost yelled out DARKNESS! but someone else beat me to it as I have a bit more self control, and well, that person is on your team knight_shadow. I did mutter "Cocaine's a helluva drug" when Samuel L. Jackson was doing it in Jungle Fever.

So did anyone catch that Rush Limbaugh said he'd leave if the Health Care bill passed? I thought he was for real real and not for play play when I saw his really ugly penthouse listed for sale, but that was due to the mayor of NYC taxing rich people, and not because of health care.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I'm not going to lie that in my Spike Lee film class when Charlie Murphy came on in Mo' Better Blues and Jungle Fever I almost yelled out DARKNESS! but someone else beat me to it as I have a bit more self control, and well, that person is on your team knight_shadow. I did mutter "Cocaine's a helluva drug" when Samuel L. Jackson was doing it in Jungle Fever.

So did anyone catch that Rush Limbaugh said he'd leave if the Health Care bill passed? I thought he was for real real and not for play play when I saw his really ugly penthouse listed for sale, but that was due to the mayor of NYC taxing rich people, and not because of health care.

Oh...Rush will stay...someone will have to pay for his pain meds!

[Ghostwriter]

I believe Rush said that he would leave the country for his medical services. I think he mentioned Costa Rica where I believe he already has a vacation home. I am not 100% positive on this, though.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

I believe Rush said that he would leave the country for his medical services. I think he mentioned Costa Rica where I believe he already has a vacation home. I am not 100% positive on this, though.

As long as you don't believe that he is serious.