The 80/20 rule

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

ok....maybe some poeple have a different idea of the 80/20 rule....sheesh

If they are positing it as something other than 80% of effects result from 20% of causes, which is what is has meant since Joseph Juran posited it in the early 40s, then yeah, I guess they do.

And despite your extended example, I'm still not sure I get what you/Tyler Perry mean by 80/20. You accept someone who has 80% of what you're looking for? If you break up with them, then you'll accept someone who has 20% of what you're looking for?

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

MysticCat:

A lot of people are just learning of the 80/20 because of the new Tyler Perry movie. You know how the media can make people do stupid stuff like reexamine all that they have known to be good and Holy.

So I agree that life isn't formulaic like this. And people who have always done this, or are just starting after this damn movie, need to do us all a favor and jump off of a cliff.

Yeah, I haven't seen the movie yet, although I imagine I will.

Still, though, I tend to view things like the 80/20 rule, at least when applied to something like personal relationships, as a silly waste of time.

But what do I know? It's all biz-babble to me, and I hate biz-babble. I hate anything Covey-cult related as well.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Yeah, I haven't seen the movie yet, although I imagine I will.

Still, though, I tend to view things like the 80/20 rule, at least when applied to something like personal relationships, as a silly waste of time.

But what do I know? It's all biz-babble to me, and I hate biz-babble. I hate anything Covey-cult related as well.

I haven't seen it, either.

I agree that it is a waste of time. Some people have the time and emotional space, though. Unfortunately.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

If you break up with them, then you'll accept someone who has 20% of what you're looking for?

Yeah, I haven't seen the movie yet, although I imagine I will.

Not exactly acceptiing..some cases the person you date right afterwards can be like a 'rebound' person or something like that but in some cases, if something happens and you and that person aren't together anymore, they have set a bar to what you will accept out of the 'new beau"


Let me add a disclaimer here too....

PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS THREAD SERIOUSLY YALL.....


When I saw the movie...me and my s.o. had a good laugh and talked about past relationships where things like this happened...

heck...to tell the truth...the last really great relationship I had before where I am now was way back in 1995.......so....from 1995 to 2003.


I met some good people but...no one I really saw as long term.



yeah....if I could have played Dr. Frankenstein and took some quality parts.....well....

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I hate anything Covey-cult related as well.

Gasp! MC has blasphemed!

I heart Franklin-Covey... maybe just 80%, but it's enough to buy it.

Back to your regularly scheduled thread.

[Marie]

DaemonSeid, I really don't know what you're talking about. You are trying to discuss the 80/20 rule as it was presented in the new Tyler Perry movie, but you are presenting it incorrectly.

The theory was this: In a marriage you are most likely only getting 80% of your needs met...then you meet someone outside the marriage who offers you that other 20%...20% looks pretty good when you aren't getting it, so you are persuaded to leave your 80% for the 20% that you JUST HAVE TO HAVE...however in the end you feel foolish and shortchanged b/c at the end of the day you are now only getting 20% of your needs met.

Its not the 'real 80/20 rule', but its the version presented in the movie with respect to relationships. They didn't at all discuss you breaking up with your 80% person and then moving on to find someone who is only 20% by default. I'm not sure from where that came.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Marie

DaemonSeid, I really don't know what you're talking about. You are trying to discuss the 80/20 rule as it was presented in the new Tyler Perry movie, but you are presenting it incorrectly.

The theory was this: In a marriage you are most likely only getting 80% of your needs met...then you meet someone outside the marriage who offers you that other 20%...20% looks pretty good when you aren't getting it, so you are persuaded to leave your 80% for the 20% that you JUST HAVE TO HAVE...however in the end you feel foolish and shortchanged b/c at the end of the day you are now only getting 20% of your needs met.

Its not the 'real 80/20 rule', but its the version presented in the movie with respect to relationships. They didn't at all discuss you breaking up with your 80% person and then moving on to find someone who is only 20% by default. I'm not sure from where that came.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I haven't seen this movie yet so I was getting confused between the original and revised "80/20 rules."

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Thanks for clearing that up.

I haven't seen this movie yet so I was getting confused between the original and revised "80/20 rules."

Same here.

[honeychile]

Wow. I mean, wow. Does anyone really think that what they're looking for in a mate at 20 is going to be the same when they're 25-30-35-40-50-60-years old? So, even if you find a person who's 99.9% of what you're looking for now, do you really think you're going to feel that way in another five years?

With the exception of having "Willing to grow in our relationship" or "Wants to grow old with me" as a main objective, I think you're really setting yourself for a fall, and should plan on a pre-nup.

MysticCat, as usual, should Mrs. MysticCat ever lose her mind & leave you, I'm very high on the list of your admirers!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Wow. I mean, wow. Does anyone really think that what they're looking for in a mate at 20 is going to be the same when they're 25-30-35-40-50-60-years old? So, even if you find a person who's 99.9% of what you're looking for now, do you really think you're going to feel that way in another five years?

With the exception of having "Willing to grow in our relationship" or "Wants to grow old with me" as a main objective, I think you're really setting yourself for a fall, and should plan on a pre-nup.

Maybe you were making a general statement but, if not, I don't know what post you're referencing.

I think the majority of the posters in this thread are well above the age of 20. And, yes, finding what we want at our age is often a pretty good indication of what we will want in our 40s, 50s, and 60s. If not, adjustments can and will be made. As adults, we know more about the "growing in our relationship" and "growing old together" thingie than we did when we were younger.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by honeychile

MysticCat, as usual, should Mrs. MysticCat ever lose her mind & leave you, I'm very high on the list of your admirers!

Actually though, I tend to think she lost her mind when she married me.