The 80/20 rule

[DaemonSeid]

Ok...so most of us have seen 'Why Did I Get Married" and the one thing I have heard in some discussions post movie is about the 80/20 rule....

so...is there any truth to it?

I kinda see it like this:

Some of us have a 100% idea of what we want from someone.

We may mostly meet people who can give us 50% and we have to decide if we wanna work with that.

If we are blessed we find someone who has 80% of what we are looking for...we get with that and stay.

However....if something happens and we break up(especially if it's our <'our' being used to mean anyone!!>fault!)....the next person(s) that come along will only be worth 20% of what we had...because it's damn near hard to find someone right off the bat that will be close to what we just lost.

Agree or disagree?


Speaking for myself personally, I remember a relationship that I was in years back where I was getting my 80% and after it ended...I just went thru this drought and saying to myself...if I could take the intelligence from person A and the funniness from person B, the drive of person C and so on...and mix them all up....I would have my last gf....LOL


Is it possible to take a 20% and build them up to at least a 70%?

[33girl]

You've GOT to be kidding!!!

I hear this stupid 80/20 stuff every day at work...80% of business comes from 20% of the clients, blah blah blah. The way they lay it out, it just sounds like an excuse to give clients that are smaller shitty service.

As for relationships as outlined below, it sounds like a copout or an excuse to dump a nonperfect person. Plus, it doesn't take dealbreakers into account.

**going to throw up**

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by 33girl

You've GOT to be kidding!!!

I hear this stupid 80/20 stuff every day at work...80% of business comes from 20% of the clients, blah blah blah. The way they lay it out, it just sounds like an excuse to give clients that are smaller shitty service.

As for relationships as outlined below, it sounds like a copout or an excuse to dump a nonperfect person. Plus, it doesn't take dealbreakers into account.

**going to throw up**

actually it does....

remember the first part is....we have 100% of what we THINK we want....

we can't always get that...it's not a copout to break off with anyone....

I look at it like this....we have any idea of what we want...but we all get what WE NEED.

but trust me....you break off with someone that is what you need...chances are, right after that...that person will not live up to that....

So...are you saying that you never experienced that?

Are you saying that you never broke off with a guy and the next guy could not measure up to the first one?

Or....

An ex contacted you later and said that his new GF is nothing compared to you?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I kinda see it like this:

Some of us have a 100% idea of what we want from someone.

We may mostly meet people who can give us 50% and we have to decide if we wanna work with that.

If we are blessed we find someone who has 80% of what we are looking for...we get with that and stay.

However....if something happens and we break up(especially if it's our <'our' being used to mean anyone!!>fault!)....the next person(s) that come along will only be worth 20% of what we had...because it's damn near hard to find someone right off the bat that will be close to what we just lost.

Agree or disagree?

I really can't quite figure out what you're saying or asking, but whatever it is, it doesn't seem to be the 80/20 rule (which says 80% of effects result from 20% of causes).

In any event, I've never seen any point in trying to quantify something like a relationship -- certainly not in percentage terms. To me, it's a pretty simple list of criteria:

Do I love her?
Does she love me?
Am I happy?
Is she happy?
What commitments have I made to her, and am I living up to those commitments?
What commitments did she make to me, and is she living up to those commitments?

Besides, I've been around quite long enough to know that what I want isn't necessarily what I need. There are quite a few qualities where my wife doesn't fit what I always "wanted." I'm glad I didn't let that get in the way of marrying her, because I think I'm much happier than I would have been had a married what I "wanted."

Sometimes you just have to stop navel gazing and let life surprise you.

[DaemonSeid]

ok....maybe some poeple have a different idea of the 80/20 rule....sheesh

I am going to try and explain it again:

hmmmmmm

ok....we all have an idea of the 'perfect' mate.

We aren't going to get it...LOL (some do and some don't)

The end result of the person that we find that makes us happy is at least 80%...still with me?

Of course you can always add more...80% is that this person has many qualities that we are seekeing but there are a few things in there that we deal with that we may not like but it's not a deal breaker....for instance:

- they snore
- not exactly tall or muscular or large chested etc.
- maybe not make enough money but it's ok
- may have a really annoying habit

those kinds of examples may make up your 20% but:

- they can cook
- they listen
-they really LOVE you
- they have your back regardless of the situation

things like that make up your 80% and above.......


Now...say something happens and you an dthat person break up...

the next person you may find those examples are reversed:

this person is:

- this person is annoying on all levels
- a deadbeat
- can't cook
-won't clean

but otherwise:

- they are good in bed
- they may have potential but everything else overshadows it
- know how to act in public....

heheheh

They don't measure up to the last GREAT person you had in your life....


get it?

[DSTCHAOS]

MysticCat:

A lot of people are just learning of the 80/20 because of the new Tyler Perry movie. You know how the media can make people do stupid stuff like reexamine all that they have known to be good and Holy.

So I agree that life isn't formulaic like this. And people who have always done this, or are just starting after this damn movie, need to do us all a favor and jump off of a cliff.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

ok....maybe some poeple have a different idea of the 80/20 rule....sheesh

Yes because it didn't originate with this movie, of course.

I think the basic point is that you get a lot of what you want and need from your mate. Never expect to get everything from your mate. That's what jobs, families, hobbies, religion, etc are for. These things combined create a whole person.

Also, people are different so comparing mates is a waste. If you have so much emotional energy and time to compare, you should stay with the former because the latter isn't doing something to keep you there.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yes because it didn't originate with this movie, of course.

I think the basic point is that you get a lot of what you want and need from your mate. Never expect to get everything from your mate. That's what jobs, families, hobbies, religion, etc are for. These things combined create a whole person.

Also, people are different so comparing mates is a waste. If you have so much emotional energy and time to compare, you should stay with the former because the latter isn't doing something to keep you there.

I know it didn't orginate there....heheh but a lot of people picked up on that example and discussed it...it was interesting to hear responses...it wasn't something to be taken seriously but a lot of us had admitted to sometimes letting go a really great catch and having the next one come along somethign we wished we could throw back.....LOL

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

ok....maybe some poeple have a different idea of the 80/20 rule....sheesh

If they are positing it as something other than 80% of effects result from 20% of causes, which is what is has meant since Joseph Juran posited it in the early 40s, then yeah, I guess they do.

And despite your extended example, I'm still not sure I get what you/Tyler Perry mean by 80/20. You accept someone who has 80% of what you're looking for? If you break up with them, then you'll accept someone who has 20% of what you're looking for?

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

MysticCat:

A lot of people are just learning of the 80/20 because of the new Tyler Perry movie. You know how the media can make people do stupid stuff like reexamine all that they have known to be good and Holy.

So I agree that life isn't formulaic like this. And people who have always done this, or are just starting after this damn movie, need to do us all a favor and jump off of a cliff.

Yeah, I haven't seen the movie yet, although I imagine I will.

Still, though, I tend to view things like the 80/20 rule, at least when applied to something like personal relationships, as a silly waste of time.

But what do I know? It's all biz-babble to me, and I hate biz-babble. I hate anything Covey-cult related as well.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

I know it didn't orginate there....heheh but a lot of people picked up on that example and discussed it...it was interesting to hear responses...it wasn't something to be taken seriously but a lot of us had admitted to sometimes letting go a really great catch and having the next one come along somethign we wished we could throw back.....LOL

I've never really let go of a great catch. The relationship just fizzled or some things came to light. I think most relationships are transitory so there's no point in saving them when they aren't working for whatever reasons.

To me all relationships lead up to the grand finale. When you get to the grand finale, you know it and that's the relationship you will fight for. It also makes all that came before it pointless to think about.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Yeah, I haven't seen the movie yet, although I imagine I will.

Still, though, I tend to view things like the 80/20 rule, at least when applied to something like personal relationships, as a silly waste of time.

But what do I know? It's all biz-babble to me, and I hate biz-babble. I hate anything Covey-cult related as well.

I haven't seen it, either.

I agree that it is a waste of time. Some people have the time and emotional space, though. Unfortunately.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

To me all relationships lead up to the grand finale. When you get to the grand finale, you know it and that's the relationship you will fight for. It also makes all that came before it pointless to think about.

Except as life/learning experiences that prepared you for the grand finale.

[Animate]

Havent seen the movie yet but this sounds like something thats going to have more women evaluating an already good relationship to the point of paranoia. Its all incredibly stupid to me.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Except as life/learning experiences that prepared you for the grand finale.

Right. But that doesn't require the constant reflection that people who are stuck in their past do.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Right. But that doesn't require the constant reflection that people who are stuck in their past do.

Exactly.