Hi, my name is Joseph... and I have a problem.

[JosephWang]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

You want support? Try Hanes.

That's pretty snappy, I'll have to remember that the next time someone asks me for help. I do appreciate your honesty though.

I might whine a lot, but it's only because I know I'm a beta male. Women want Alpha's, not betas, and I will always be a Beta. I only got laid twice during my four years in a frat. That's pathetic, isn't it.

Go ahead, be honest, don't sugarcoat, that's why I'm here.

[smiley21]

Originally Posted by JosephWang

. I only got laid twice during my four years in a frat. That's pathetic, isn't it.

Not really. I guess it depends on your point of view. I don't understand why you need to let the world know how many people you got into bed.

And you going on and on about how pathetic you are is pathetic within itself. Snap out of it.

[JosephWang]

Originally Posted by smiley21

Not really. I guess it depends on your point of view. I don't understand why you need to let the world know how many people you got into bed.

And you going on and on about how pathetic you are is pathetic within itself. Snap out of it.

It's just the point of view of a guy. This sort of thing is important to guys, don't let them tell you it isn't. We all want to do it as much as possible. I like being honest and direct myself. It's not so much the number as it is the fact that you either get it or you don't.

You'll meet oh so sensitive guys in your women's studies classes that pretend not to be misogynists, but deep down they're all pigs just like me. Which is not something bad.... it just is, you know? It's in our nature.

[smiley21]

Originally Posted by JosephWang

It's just the point of view of a guy. This sort of thing is important to guys, don't let them tell you it isn't. We all want to do it as much as possible. I like being honest and direct myself. It's not so much the number as it is the fact that you either get it or you don't.

Yeah, I know that. I know a lot of guys that care about the number very much and I think it is silly.

[JosephWang]

Originally Posted by smiley21

Yeah, I know that. I know it is for their ego. I know a lot of guys that care about the number very much and I think it is silly.

And what's more, the fact is that it is impossible for boys and girls to be just friends. Unless they happen to be homosexual.

You might have a little beta boy that you pal around with and tell all your problems to, but he secretly wants you in bed and you secretly know that.

[afboiler]

Originally Posted by JosephWang

And what's more, the fact is that it is impossible for boys and girls to be just friends. Unless they happen to be homosexual.

You might have a little beta boy that you pal around with and tell all your problems to, but he secretly wants you in bed and you secretly know that.

I am not homosexual and some of my best friends are guys...and they don't want to secretly "bed" me as you put it...just b/c this might be your story does not mean all guys are like that...if you are in your 30's you need to grow up and learn to deal with life....there are much worse things going on then you not having a good date

[James]

Well . . that might not be true lol. How would you know for sure?

If you are conventionally attractive there is probably some, potentially sublimated, sexual attraction there . . .

Originally Posted by afboiler

I am not homosexual and some of my best friends are guys...and they don't want to secretly "bed" me as you put it...just b/c this might be your story does not mean all guys are like that...if you are in your 30's you need to grow up and learn to deal with life....there are much worse things going on then you not having a good date

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Knoxstudent

I didn't know that there are two types of males (alpha and beta). What is the difference?

IMHO it's bullshit, yeah there are a lot of people that fit into either an A or B type personality, but i've known way more that show traits of both or have a lot of gray areas.

[DaemonSeid]

Awww...come on ladies...why are you all giving this guy a hard time...you can see he is sensitive.,..I mean after all he drove home crying... (insert snicker here)



and...he even talked to the hoe (I mean girl) after the date despite she scored (and he didnt) on thier date.....(actualy I will give her props for that, you can't get more ballsy than having sex with a guy you met on a date that wasn't your date...while your date was nearby)

(sidebar: can I ask a question.........and you didn't kick somebody's ass beeeecauussee....?)

what more can u ask for?

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Awww...come on ladies...why are you all giving this guy a hard time...you can see he is sensitive.,..I mean after all he drove home crying... (insert snicker here)



and...he even talked to the hoe (I mean girl) after the date despite she scored (and he didnt) on thier date.....(actualy I will give her props for that, you can't get more ballsy than having sex with a guy you met on a date that wasn't your date...while your date was nearby)

Hahahahahahahahaha. OMG this is so funny.

(Oh geez, my sides...cough, cough )

[James]

You seem more like a "nice" guy than a pig. A pig wouldn't have gotten played like that, or taken it so personally if they did.

I don't know if you are legit or not, but my general suggestion would be stop trying for a while, join a gym, get buff, take some dance classes, maybe buy some new clothes, and get a more aggressive attitude.

Damn man, if there is a girl out there that wants a whiny guy with no self confidence . . well who would want her?

ETA: Don't forget to wash behind your ears.

Originally Posted by JosephWang

It's just the point of view of a guy. This sort of thing is important to guys, don't let them tell you it isn't. We all want to do it as much as possible. I like being honest and direct myself. It's not so much the number as it is the fact that you either get it or you don't.

You'll meet oh so sensitive guys in your women's studies classes that pretend not to be misogynists, but deep down they're all pigs just like me. Which is not something bad.... it just is, you know? It's in our nature.

[JosephWang]

Originally Posted by James

You seem more like a "nice" guy than a pig. A pig wouldn't have gotten played like that, or taken it so personally if they did.

I don't know if you are legit or not, but my general suggestion would be stop trying for a while, join a gym, get buff, take some dance classes, maybe buy some new clothes, and get a more aggressive attitude.

Damn man, if there is a girl out there that wants a whiny guy with no self confidence . . well who would want her?

ETA: Don't forget to wash behind your ears.

I think the hard truth of the matter is... that I don't really like women. I'm attracted to them, but I tend not to like them. It's like, why should I 'try to get buff' or 'act aggressive.' I'm not a jock, I don't want to be something I'm not, why should I change?

I like old women, they're easy to talk to, no bullshit likeable people.

Young girls are all catty, and when you get to be older and you're pawing around trying to find someone decent, you can't, so you just end up with hook ups, like my friend Kelly I mentioned. I can't believe I fell in love with that ho.

A lot of other girls just seem to have these unrealistic expectations. Have you seen their postings on Craigslist, etc? They list like a 1000 things they want in a potential mate. And I'm not suppossed to feel inadequate?

American Women are worthless. And from what I can tell from my friend's marriage, they make terrible wives. I'm going to marry a nice, submissive Asian girl.

I hope you don't think I'm too out there, I just wanted to have an HONEST discussion about how I REALLY feel. I want you to all come back from this thread with the feeling that you interacted with someone online who wasn't pulling any punches or editing himself.

Thanks for listening.

[James]

Find one you like. Like men, women come in different flavors, sometimes you just have to gag enough times to find one you enjoy.

As far as who you are . . . your personality is just an interface you developed as a child to interact what with the people around you. Its malleable.

I am not saying to act aggressive. I am saying to be aggressive.

We function in a social world, you need to adjust yourself to achieve the type of attention you want from others.

To act in a way that denies you that attention, and then complain you are not getting what you want is insane. And to assume the world is going to change to conform to your inadequacies is just stupid.

Originally Posted by JosephWang

I think the hard truth of the matter is... that I don't really like women. I'm attracted to them, but I tend not to like them. It's like, why should I 'try to get buff' or 'act aggressive.' I'm not a jock, I don't want to be something I'm not, why should I change?

I like old women, they're easy to talk to, no bullshit likeable people.

Young girls are all catty, and when you get to be older and you're pawing around trying to find someone decent, you can't, so you just end up with hook ups, like my friend Kelly I mentioned. I can't believe I fell in love with that ho.

A lot of other girls just seem to have these unrealistic expectations. Have you seen their postings on Craigslist, etc? They list like a 1000 things they want in a potential mate. And I'm not suppossed to feel inadequate?

American Women are worthless. And from what I can tell from my friend's marriage, they make terrible wives. I'm going to marry a nice, submissive Asian girl.

I hope you don't think I'm too out there, I just wanted to have an HONEST discussion about how I REALLY feel. I want you to all come back from this thread with the feeling that you interacted with someone online who wasn't pulling any punches or editing himself.

Thanks for listening.

[JosephWang]

Originally Posted by James

Find one you like. Like men, women come in different flavors, sometimes you just have to gag enough times to find one you enjoy.

As far as who you are . . . your personality is just an interface you developed as a child to interact what with the people around you. Its malleable.

I am not saying to act aggressive. I am saying to be aggressive.

We function in a social world, you need to adjust yourself to achieve the type of attention you want from others.

To act in a way that denies you that attention, and then complain you are not getting what you want is insane. And to assume the world is going to change to conform to your inadequacies is just stupid.

Here's the problem: you might say that your personality is merely an interface, but I have always thought that my personality is born of behavior that people will accept from me, given my physical appearance and nonverbal cues.

For example, if a guy is not particularly good looking or physically imposing, no women or guys are going to accept him if he goes around acting like he's someone great like Bronson Pinchot. They'll cut him right off.

So you sort of adapt the persona that is acceptable to other people around you. It's a reward/punishment process.

And if you still persist in acting out of your "role" given to you by society, then you'll get mired down in a rut... like a motorcycle stuck in the mud.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by JosephWang

American Women are worthless. And from what I can tell from my friend's marriage, they make terrible wives. I'm going to marry a nice, submissive Asian girl

Sirikwan?