The Term African American

[Sista]

Originally Posted by laylo

Black, African-American, Colored, and Negro are all different titles for the same concept. I and other posters were referring to concepts, not names. We are talking about the basic ways in which people understand racial categories and the fact that such things as racial categories were invented. As much as you want to take credit for your Uhuru philosophy, it is not individual. It is based on the placing of people of detectable African descent into one category together, which you learned at a young age. All humans are socialized, and that doesn't make you less of an independent thinker.

My Uhuru philosophy? Some of you people in here really have a lot of nerve. This Greek stuff has really gotten to you colored people. Or would you prefer Negro?

By the way, are you an independent thinker? You seem to be hell bent on taking away from me my ability to think for my self, yet you push what you have been taught and not what you perceive from an individual basis.


All that you have spat here in this topic, is what you accept, I don't have to accept what you accept. You can believe all you want that the people around you get to title you but I don't have to believe what you believe. All that you learn in school is stolen and plagiarized philosophy. Originally, it was the rich who could afford to invest in their philosophy and create universities which would expand their philosophy out of others. I said that to say this, it was an individual alone who is responsible for what you know and what you have accepted to be the truth. That type of education no doubt, has it perks but one needs to also generate ones own ideals from with in.

If I was able to finance and promote my as you say, "Uhuru philosophy", all that you believe in right now would be challeneged. As I am sure I am not the only one who does not follow what you yourself has chosen to accept.

[laylo]

Originally Posted by Sista

My Uhuru philosophy? Some of you people in here really have a lot of nerve. This Greek stuff has really gotten to you colored people. Or would you prefer Negro?

By the way, are you an independent thinker? You seem to be hell bent on taking away from me my ability to think for my self, yet you push what you have been taught and not what you perceive from an individual basis.


All that you have spat here in this topic, is what you accept, I don't have to accept what you accept. You can believe all you want that the people around you get to title you but I don't have to believe what you believe. All that you learn in school is stolen and plagiarized philosophy. Originally, it was the rich who could afford to invest in their philosophy and create universities which would expand their philosophy out of others. I said that to say this, it was an individual alone who is responsible for what you know and what you have accepted to be the truth. That type of education no doubt, has it perks but one needs to also generate ones own ideals from with in.

If I was able to finance and promote my as you say, "Uhuru philosophy", all that you believe in right now would be challeneged. As I am sure I am not the only one who does not follow what you yourself has chosen to accept.

Sista, the hostility is completely unnecessary. This is a dialogue. When I disagree with you I state why, and vice versa. Debate is presenting opposing arguments, and I presented mine which opposes yours. No one is personally attacking you.

ETA: I don't know why you were offended by my calling your philospohy "Uhuru," but I did so because of an organization called Uhuru which promotes a view similar to yours. If you had referred to my ideas as a "Graves philosophy" I would have thought it displayed education, not nerve.

[AKA_Monet]

Sista,

You are simply stating that we never had a choice in the matter, that I stated about 6 pages ago.

We have been involved in this "society" for roughly ~150 years since "emancipation". What more do we expect? We are lucky we get referred to by our names. Much less than what they use to call us... And some folks want to refer to us just as numbers--or "Pickaninny" or "Buck"... That's a good name...

[Sista]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Sista,

You are simply stating that we never had a choice in the matter, that I stated about 6 pages ago.

We have been involved in this "society" for roughly ~150 years since "emancipation". What more do we expect? We are lucky we get referred to by our names. Much less than what they use to call us... And some folks want to refer to us just as numbers--or "Pickaninny" or "Buck"... That's a good name...

Oh my God! I had forgotten about those names when I was naming my list of names we blacks in America have been referred to. I knew I had forgotten something but wasn't quite sure. Well, can you blame me?


Any way, how are you? My dear sister.

[Sista]

Originally Posted by laylo

Sista, the hostility is completely unnecessary. This is a dialogue. When I disagree with you I state why, and vice versa. Debate is presenting opposing arguments, and I presented mine which opposes yours. No one is personally attacking you.

Hostility? I didn't know that informing you that your acceptance of letting people title you does not apply to me was hostility?

Originally Posted by laylo

ETA: I don't know why you were offended by my calling your philospohy "Uhuru," but I did so because of an organization called Uhuru which promotes a view similar to yours. If you had referred to my ideas as a "Graves philosophy" I would have thought it displayed education, not nerve.

I don't like how you talked condescending when you said
"your, Uhuru Philosophy."

Also, I don't need you to tell me what Uhuru is, I live up the street from a Uhuru house and I know some of the members.

You can try and pretend as though you were not down talking me or Uhuru when you said what you said but I know better. If you were not insulting me or Uhuru philosophy, you would not have indirectly compared Uhuru philosophy to the philosophy of Social construction and then labeled my thinking as Uhuru philosophy. I guess I wasn't supposed to be sharp enough to realize what you were actually saying.

[laylo]

Originally Posted by Sista

Hostility? I didn't know that informing you that your acceptance of letting people title you does not apply to me was hostility?

No, I think "Some of you people in here really have a lot of nerve. This Greek stuff has really gotten to you colored people. Or would you prefer Negro?" displayed hostility. And as I said before, I wasn't talking about titles, I was talking about concepts of race.

Originally Posted by Sista

If you were not insulting me or Uhuru philosophy, you would not have indirectly compared Uhuru philosophy to the philosophy of Social construction and then labeled my thinking as Uhuru philosophy.

I don't see comparing your view to other views as insulting and I truly don't understand how you do. Just another example of how we see things differently. Furthermore I never even disagreed with the philosphy I likened to Uhuru, I simply argued that it was based on social constructs.

Originally Posted by Sista

I guess I wasn't supposed to be sharp enough to realize what you were actually saying.

It didn't seem to me that you understood what I meant since you took it as an insult when it was not. I explained myself to remedy the conflict between what you recieved and what I meant.

[Sista]

Originally Posted by laylo

No, I think "Some of you people in here really have a lot of nerve. This Greek stuff has really gotten to you colored people. Or would you prefer Negro?" displayed hostility. And as I said before, I wasn't talking about titles, I was talking about concepts of race

You have already said it at least three times, that you are or was "talking about the concepts of race." What it looks like to me is, you are not the only one talking about the concept of race. You already made it a point to mention that not only you, but others as well were all talking about the concept of race. When you said that, you seemed to be eluding that I am the only one who seems not to be talking about the same thing.

Please, you tell me, is there a such thing as a limitation on concepts of any nature? If so, was what I discussed outside of the limit?

Is there no such thing as layers within conepts? If so, was what I discussed not one of the layers?

Is there only one degree to a concept? If so, I guess your degree was the one and the only one.

Originally Posted by laylo

I don't see comparing your view to other views as insulting and I truly don't understand how you do. Just another example of how we see things differently. Furthermore I never even disagreed with the philosophy I likened to Uhuru, I simply argued that it was based on social constructs

Let's see, you weren't indirectly insulting when you said this below?

Originally Posted by laylo

As much as you want to take credit for your Uhuru philosophy, it is not individual. It is based on the placing of people of detectable African descent into one category together, which you learned at a young age. All humans are socialized, and that doesn't make you less of an independent thinker.

"you want to take credit"

"It is not individual"

"doesn't' make you less of an independent thinker"
I'm sorry, do you know me? It seems as though, you have spent a lengthy amount of time sizing me up.

The above seemed to imply many indirect implications. I dont' care for implications. If you have something to say, say it don't imply it.

Of course, you are going probably come back with a response which will go something like this...

Never mind

[laylo]

Originally Posted by Sista

You have already said it at least three times, that you are or was "talking about the concepts of race." What it looks like to me is, you are not the only one talking about the concept of race. You already made it a point to mention that not only you, but others as well were all talking about the concept of race. When you said that, you seemed to be eluding that I am the only one who seems not to be talking about the same thing.

Please, you tell me, is there a such thing as a limitation on concepts of any nature? If so, was what I discussed outside of the limit?

Is there no such thing as layers within conepts? If so, was what I discussed not one of the layers?

Is there only one degree to a concept? If so, I guess your degree was the one and the only one.

You kept responding to me by referring to titles, which I did not say or imply anything about. Race concepts are different from titles. If you were also talking about concepts, it didn't seem that way from what you wrote.

Originally Posted by Sista

Let's see, you weren't indirectly insulting when you said this below?



"you want to take credit"

"It is not individual"

"doesn't' make you less of an independent thinker"

Again, no, I was not. I was saying that your idea- similar to Uhuru's- was not formed in a vacuum but is based on social constructs. Hence it is not an individual idea, as you suggested. If anything, saying that "socialization does not make you less of an independent thinker" implies that you are an independent thinker. I do not see any of this as insulting.

Originally Posted by Sista

I'm sorry, do you know me? It seems as though, you have spent a lengthy amount of time sizing me up.

I have responded to what you've written; there was nothing about your character in any of my posts.

Originally Posted by Sista

The above seemed to imply many indirect implications. I dont' care for implications. If you have something to say, say it don't imply it.

Of course, you are going probably come back with a response which will go something like this...

Never mind

I said exactly what I had to say. I don't know how or why you believe otherwise.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by Sista

My Uhuru philosophy? Some of you people in here really have a lot of nerve. This Greek stuff has really gotten to you colored people. Or would you prefer Negro?

If you don't like Greeks, then why are you here? I just really don't understand what the heck you are doing on this message board ...

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

If you don't like Greeks, then why are you here? I just really don't understand what the heck you are doing on this message board ...

Cuz' gwirl she heard some hype and wanted to see what we are all about... I saw it ~10 years ago and endure such hatred. I was unsure how long it would take to permeate toward the East Coast... Guess that answers that question.

You will see more of this thought pattern.

[Sista]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Cuz' gwirl she heard some hype and wanted to see what we are all about... I saw it ~10 years ago and endure such hatred. I was unsure how long it would take to permeate toward the East Coast... Guess that answers that question.

You will see more of this thought pattern.

Actually, that is not the reason why I am here. I Actually tumbled up on this place by accident. I was googling something and Greekchat came up showing all these topics concerning black people and I became interested in the topics, so I joined.

Is that a crime?

[macallan25]

God you suck.

I hope you stub your toe today.

[Sista]

Originally Posted by macallan25

God you suck.

I hope you stub your toe today.

LMAO

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Sista

Actually, that is not the reason why I am here. I Actually tumbled up on this place by accident. I was googling something and Greekchat came up showing all these topics concerning black people and I became interested in the topics, so I joined.

Is that a crime?

Bitch, you is allllll kinds of crazy!!!!11

[Sista]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

Bitch, you is allllll kinds of crazy!!!!11

Where I come from, when people call you crazy, it really means they think you have heart, more heart than they could ever imagine having for their self....


I come from the ghetto...

Where do you come from?