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[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

First, It's SigmaDiva.....



Then call your IHQ and ask. Attend meetings and conferences and ask. If you are unsure about the current policy of your sorority, then don't sit in the dark, ask someone who should know.

In my org, it is expected that every initiated member attend local meetings, regional meetings and national meetings to stay current on the changes and updates that go on in the org. It is your responsibility as an initiated member of AGD to stay current by inquiring about policy changes. It's when GLO members don't stay current that confusion happens.



But if you (the general you) don't know what should be or not be discussed online, then maybe you are giving away information that your IHQ does not want you to give out.

Granted, some questions may be able to be addressed online, but I think it is better to at least do it in that particular GLO's forum. Those members would know best on how to address the PNAI's concerns.



I think you are missing the point that there is a difference between undergrad rush and AI process. Heck, I'm in a D9 and I see the difference. Many, many, many, many NPC members have stated over, and over and over again that while there is an agreement for conducting undergrad rush, the process is different on the AI level. I feel that you are not understanding that difference. The AI procedures for CD may be very different than XYZ. It makes no sense for someone who is a member of DEF to try to answer AI questions for either group.




Then maybe at your next convention you can push for a policy for your org to clearly define what is public info and what is not. Be part of the solution, not the problem.

What really suprises me, is why do those on Greek Chat that are members of a sorority say over, and over again that formal recruitment and the AI process is different? I haven't seen anyone post that they are the same, not even close.

In college, you visit the houses of all the sororities, you are assigned a Rho Chi (or other recruitment counselor), you go pick up invitations, you go to parties, then finally you have pref night and a bid day, a pledge period, then initiation if you met all of your requirements for your pledge period. All in the course of a few days or few weeks, depending on how your college does it.

I fail to see how ANYONE could get confused when members for potential AI are generally not enrolled at a college at all, don't sign up for formal recruitment, there are no parties, there is no pref night, there is no bid day, and the process takes several months. I haven't seen anyone post anything stating otherwise.

In AI, a sorority is contacted by the PNAIM or an Alumnae member gets the process started for them. They go to a few events, the AA has a discussion and a decision is made and they generally get initiated with alot of strangers that they have never met before. Not women that they went through a pledge period with.

I have never thought it was the same thing, and haven't seen anyone else come even close to getting the two confused.

I just think it's odd that every other post seems to start with "AI and Formal recruitment are different"...that falls under the "DUH" catagory.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

I have never thought it was the same thing, and haven't seen anyone else come even close to getting the two confused.

I just think it's odd that every other post seems to start with "AI and Formal recruitment are different"...that falls under the "DUH" catagory.

The reason that is being repeated over and over again is for some of the PNAIs who apparently don't understand that "sorority shopping" is frowned upon on the alumnae level. The automatic comeback is "well what about those girls at Penn State going to 20 rush parties? If that isn't shopping, what is?" That's when you bang your head on the wall and explain that it's apples and oranges.

We also know that every group at Penn State will be taking a pledge class this semester (unless there are some sort of bizarre unforseen extenuating circumstances). We DON'T know that every sorority will be taking AIs this semester, this year, or EVER.

[greekalum]

To go back to a point that was brought up earlier, I think the key difference between the policy discussions on the AI forum and the policy discussions that are going on in other threads is that in the AI forum organizations' policies are openly discussed and speculated on by non-members. We have non-members presuming they know the policies of various organizations and also presuming to advise other non-members on said policies.

[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The reason that is being repeated over and over again is for some of the PNAIs who apparently don't understand that "sorority shopping" is frowned upon on the alumnae level. The automatic comeback is "well what about those girls at Penn State going to 20 rush parties? If that isn't shopping, what is?" That's when you bang your head on the wall and explain that it's apples and oranges.

We also know that every group at Penn State will be taking a pledge class this semester (unless there are some sort of bizarre unforseen extenuating circumstances). We DON'T know that every sorority will be taking AIs this semester, this year, or EVER.

I'm not going to say I disagree with you on many of your points. The President of the AA Chapter that I am having AI discussions with said that she had an AI recently that came to them, and discovered at the local Alumnae Panhellenic meeting that she had been turned down at 5 other organizations. THAT is sorority shopping.

I think those women are few and far between and I'll admit here that I am definately assuming that, but it just makes sense. The sorority that I am personally speaking to, I have no idea of what they are looking for, and there is one other that I would consider, but other than those two, that is where the search would stop for me. The other NPC groups are great, but are not a "match" of things that would interest me.

I just don't necessarily think it's fair to group all PNAI's into a group that "doesn't understand" how things work, or saying we all "get confused" and don't realize that Rush and AI are different animals.

Most of us are well-aware and I haven't seen but probably one or two on the AI forum that were seriously mis-informed.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Most of us are well-aware and I haven't seen but probably one or two on the AI forum that were seriously mis-informed.

That's because a lot of the really bad threads have been deleted or closed. Trust me, there were more than 1 or 2.

Another MB I visit has a section called "the Pit" with posts that are an example of what NOT to do. However, the subject matter on there is a lot more lighthearted than lifetime sorority membership.