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Old 05-28-2014, 10:11 AM
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False dichotomy. The alternative is to work toward a system that better protects and balances the rights of the accuser and the rights of the accused. The bottom line is that I don't think a lower standard of proof, or ideas like treating multiple accusations as proof of the truth of the allegations (they might be, they might not) will solve the problems, and I have little confidence that in practice they'd be workable. I see them leading to a whole different set of problems.

As for my law example, you're missing my point. Of course, not being able to go to law school isn't worse than rape. I'm talking about the possible consequences of a school undertaking the kind of process you're talking about and getting it wrong. I'm talking about the possible consequences of a student being expelled from school for something, a very serious something, he didn't do.

And yes, if a university expels a student for rape, then they are declaring him guilty of rape. Not guilty in a criminal law sense, but guilty in the practical, 'he raped someone" sense.

Thank you for finally explaining what you mean instead of assuming we'd accurately guess what you mean. As a male, I don't think biology plays nearly the role you seem to—I think what you're calling biology I would call socialization as to what culture says it means to be male or female.
I came of age in the era when nurture was assumed to account for almost all differences and that was also my viewpoint. Since then, the scientific community has made a lot of discoveries about the biological differences. There is certainly still a debate about the exact percentage that is nature vs nurture* but there's no longer much scientific debate that biology plays more than a minor role.

* ETA that there is also an interesting debate about how these two intersect

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