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Originally Posted by sigmadiva
Okay, I just had to check before getting into bed.....
Oh gee whiz...we've been over this multiple times, just go back through the thread and re-read what I said. This discussion has become beyond circular now.....
No. What I don't see is why anyone would ever want to suggest that a house brawl between a couple of drunk college kids is anywhere near the severity and magnitude of a woman getting raped. I did not bring up rape in this discussion.
Another poster was like, 'Hey, it's all the same right? No matter what, the victim is always blameless'. Well, I seem to recall reading a thread about a family who did not pay their fire fighter dues, their house caught on fire, and people we like 'Hellzz yeah, they did not pay their dues, let their house burn!!!' Some people did not seem to have a problem blaming the victims there.
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sigmadiva -
I see where you are trying to go with this and I wish I could find a good example. I don't think sexual assault is the best one here, and I wish we could all find a better one that represents what you're getting at. I don't think you're blaming rape victims, or all victims, but being accountable for actions is a fine line. No one ever deserves to be assaulted, even if they exhibit behavior that puts them in a situation where they are a victim. We all make choices and sometimes our choice is a factor in a situation, but it isn't our fault. Anyone who assaults another made the choice to behave that way as well, and they chose to be a perpetrator and assault someone. I read Adam Smith's own words, and he said he was drunk and I'll paraphrase looking for a fight/drama. Even if it wasn't wizard hat it would have been someone else, and I think if the someone else who could have been assaulted was not gay we wouldn't be having this discussion.