Gay Emory Student Dragged From Frat Party

[agzg]

I think we're still discussing the topic. Sexual assault and physical assault cases like this (where there is one victim, one perpetrator) are both crimes in which the victim is not to blame.

Had this kid punched Adam Smith before Adam Smith decided to make the choice to violently and forcibly remove the kid from the party, THEN he might share some blame. Until then, not his fault.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by agzg

I think we're still discussing the topic. Sexual assault and physical assault cases like this (where there is one victim, one perpetrator) are both crimes in which the victim is not to blame.

Had this kid punched Adam Smith before Adam Smith decided to make the choice to violently and forcibly remove the kid from the party, THEN he might share some blame. Until then, not his fault.

Exactly my point, we can't have a victim without an action from a perp. Recognizing alcohol was involved still doesn't excuse the behavior, but it is a definite factor in making poor choices. I think there are a lot of poor choices by quite a few people here, especially when there are preventative measures like a guest list and security that are in place.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Exactly my point, we can't have a victim without an action from a perp. Recognizing alcohol was involved still doesn't excuse the behavior, but it is a definite factor in making poor choices. I think there are a lot of poor choices by quite a few people here, especially when there are preventative measures like a guest list and security that are in place.

Right, but just because there were a lot of poor choices made doesn't excuse Smith in any way for beating this kid's ass. He's still 100% to blame.