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Old 08-02-2010, 03:22 PM
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This isn't getting the government to solve community problems, but to solve it's own immigration laws and processes. Removing government influence doesn't make sense here.
Because more government influence has been effective so far? The underlying assumption in all of this is that social programs can and do work. The inner-cities of just about every major city in the U.S. would beg to differ.

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You have to do it all at once or it will not work. The border is too big, and we USE immigrant labor. All of those jobs that hire illegal immigrants aren't going to go away, and as long as farms aren't required to pay minimum wage, Americans aren't signing up in droves either.
Sure, but the federal government lacks credibility in enforcing the border. The people demand first that the border be secure, then after that, we can worry about making sure immigrant labor stays on the up and up--and let's face it, that's doubtful no matter what. Companies use illegal immigrant labor to avoid having to pay wages, worry about workers' compensation, etc., not necessarily because those are jobs Americans won't do.

The border is not too big to secure. We just have to install the necessary resources along the border. Remember--the Ancient Chinese were able to keep the Mongolian hordes at bay with a well-garrisoned, well fortified wall. If they could do that then, imagine what we can do with satellites, drones, helicopters, etc. There is simply no excuse to not have a secure border, and not having one is to the extreme detriment of both the U.S. and Mexico.
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