Dallas Police Chief son Killed in Shooting

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Somehow he thinks suicide by cop cannot be real unless the race card is real.

That's illogical and stupid.

And he thought this was an ongoing debate between the two of us. LOL. Yet another time to remind people that I don't remember everything I type and which username I type it to.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And he thought this was an ongoing debate between the two of us. LOL. Yet another time to remind people that I don't remember everything I type and which username I type it to.

I never thought it was a debate. I thought it was us taking each other piss out, to borrow a phrase from the Englanders.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Somehow he thinks suicide by cop cannot be real unless the race card is real.

That's illogical and stupid.

Wow.

No, actually I think that if you think either the race card is real or that suicide by cop is real, you are illogical and stupid.

You should really think about things before trying to speak for someone else.

Yeah, so anyone thinks that this was suicide by cop is stupid. And probably fat.

[AOII Angel]

I actually know someone who committed suicide by cop. It certainly is real. Sure makes the officer feel great, too.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

I never thought it was a debate. I thought it was us taking each other piss out, to borrow a phrase from the Englanders.

You can't even use the phrase appropriately.

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Wow.

No, actually I think that if you think either the race card is real or that suicide by cop is real, you are illogical and stupid.

You should really think about things before trying to speak for someone else.

Yeah, so anyone thinks that this was suicide by cop is stupid. And probably fat.

No, you said, and I quote

Basically, if there is no such thing as the "race card" then there is no such thing as "suicide by cop.

You tied the two together and asserted one was real if the other was. Later by implication and now outright statement you have declared both to be false.

But, I'm sorry, Mr. Sociologist, please educate me on how social constructs are fabrications of the media and have no bearings in reality. Be sure to cite your work.

Oh wait, you'll just stick to insulting people who disagree with you. That's probably waaaay more effective.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I actually know someone who committed suicide by cop. It certainly is real. Sure makes the officer feel great, too.

*nod* It's not nearly as common as people throw it out there, but it does happen. And it's cruel to the officers involved who really don't want someone's death on their conscience even if given "no choice."

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I actually know someone who committed suicide by cop. It certainly is real. Sure makes the officer feel great, too.

No you actually don't.

If someone killed him, it isn't suicide.

How the officer feels is irrelevant. "Suicide by cop" is a construction of the media. It is meaningless and an illusion.

If someone else kills you, it isn't suicide. There are almost always alternatives.

And if the officer kills in self defense, then it is self-defense.

Yes, even if the persons who is killed wants to die, if he doesn't kill himself, then it isn't suicide.

Suicide is ONLY when you take your own life. Planning to die is different. It's different pscychology and it's different in a social context.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

You can't even use the phrase appropriately.



No, you said, and I quote


You tied the two together and asserted one was real if the other was. Later by implication and now outright statement you have declared both to be false.

But, I'm sorry, Mr. Sociologist, please educate me on how social constructs are fabrications of the media and have no bearings in reality. Be sure to cite your work.

Oh wait, you'll just stick to insulting people who disagree with you. That's probably waaaay more effective.

You're the one who called me stupid.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

*nod* It's not nearly as common as people throw it out there, but it does happen. And it's cruel to the officers involved who really don't want someone's death on their conscience even if given "no choice."

No it doesn't.

Ever.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

No you actually don't.

If someone killed him, it isn't suicide.

How the officer feels is irrelevant. "Suicide by cop" is a construction of the media. It is meaningless and an illusion.

If someone else kills you, it isn't suicide. There are almost always alternatives.

And if the officer kills in self defense, then it is self-defense.

Yes, even if the persons who is killed wants to die, if he doesn't kill himself, then it isn't suicide.

Suicide is ONLY when you take your own life. Planning to die is different. It's different pscychology and it's different in a social context.

It's actually a legal cause of death in England and also called "victim precipitated homicide"

Dear lord, at least start with wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_cop

There is nothing particularly comparable to suicide by cop, you can't say it's just planning to die. It requires setting the stage to have someone else kill you and because the cops are the only people who really GET to shoot other people (except in Texas) they're the only logical target in a non-militarized country.

How, precisely, is there different psychology involved? I'd love to hear.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

You're the one who called me stupid.

No, I didn't. I swear, reading comprehension around here has gone down the tubes.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

No it doesn't.

Ever.

It never rains either. I said so.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

No, I didn't. I swear, reading comprehension around here has gone down the tubes.

Then what are you talking about? I never called you any names. And you said what I said was stupid, so that counts as you calling me stupid. You also gave me the finger via gif. I'm flattered.

And it's still called Homicide in England, not Suicide, so I think you proved my point for me.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It never rains either. I said so.

And no one plays the race card either.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Then what are you talking about? I never called you any names. And you said what I said was stupid, so that counts as you calling me stupid.

And it's still called Homicide in England, not Suicide, so I think you proved my point for me.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/may/10/ukcrime.ukguns


Stop trolling, you're making an ass of yourself.