Dallas Police Chief son Killed in Shooting

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I actually know someone who committed suicide by cop. It certainly is real. Sure makes the officer feel great, too.

No you actually don't.

If someone killed him, it isn't suicide.

How the officer feels is irrelevant. "Suicide by cop" is a construction of the media. It is meaningless and an illusion.

If someone else kills you, it isn't suicide. There are almost always alternatives.

And if the officer kills in self defense, then it is self-defense.

Yes, even if the persons who is killed wants to die, if he doesn't kill himself, then it isn't suicide.

Suicide is ONLY when you take your own life. Planning to die is different. It's different pscychology and it's different in a social context.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

No you actually don't.

If someone killed him, it isn't suicide.

How the officer feels is irrelevant. "Suicide by cop" is a construction of the media. It is meaningless and an illusion.

If someone else kills you, it isn't suicide. There are almost always alternatives.

And if the officer kills in self defense, then it is self-defense.

Yes, even if the persons who is killed wants to die, if he doesn't kill himself, then it isn't suicide.

Suicide is ONLY when you take your own life. Planning to die is different. It's different pscychology and it's different in a social context.

It's actually a legal cause of death in England and also called "victim precipitated homicide"

Dear lord, at least start with wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_cop

There is nothing particularly comparable to suicide by cop, you can't say it's just planning to die. It requires setting the stage to have someone else kill you and because the cops are the only people who really GET to shoot other people (except in Texas) they're the only logical target in a non-militarized country.

How, precisely, is there different psychology involved? I'd love to hear.