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Old 06-25-2010, 08:00 PM
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No, I didn't. I swear, reading comprehension around here has gone down the tubes.
Then what are you talking about? I never called you any names. And you said what I said was stupid, so that counts as you calling me stupid. You also gave me the finger via gif. I'm flattered.

And it's still called Homicide in England, not Suicide, so I think you proved my point for me.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:02 PM
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Then what are you talking about? I never called you any names. And you said what I said was stupid, so that counts as you calling me stupid.

And it's still called Homicide in England, not Suicide, so I think you proved my point for me.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/may/10/ukcrime.ukguns


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Old 06-25-2010, 08:09 PM
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Stop trolling, you're making an ass of yourself.
And turning my serious news thread into a trainwreck.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:40 PM
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And turning my serious news thread into a trainwreck.
Meh, I'm sorry.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:13 PM
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Stop trolling, you're making an ass of yourself.
Okay. None of that was suicide. It doesn't matter if he had a "cowboy attitude,"

This article proves my point further:

His plan wasn't to get killed, it was to kill others, in this case police. Just because he had a "cowboy attitude" and was willing to die doesn't mean that his intention was soley, or even at all, to end his own life. He was willing to be killed in order to kill. He has the mind of a killer.

ETA: It also doesn't matter that he left a note.

EATA: It really doesn't affect anywhere in civilization if it's from anywhere near yorkshire. Yes, that's me be classist.
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:38 PM
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Okay. None of that was suicide. It doesn't matter if he had a "cowboy attitude,"

This article proves my point further:

His plan wasn't to get killed, it was to kill others, in this case police. Just because he had a "cowboy attitude" and was willing to die doesn't mean that his intention was soley, or even at all, to end his own life. He was willing to be killed in order to kill. He has the mind of a killer.

ETA: It also doesn't matter that he left a note.

EATA: It really doesn't affect anywhere in civilization if it's from anywhere near yorkshire. Yes, that's me be classist.
If he'd wanted to kill someone, he probably would have just come out shooting, instead he was shot by a marksman.

And I didn't realize you actually had the ability to declare things true or false based on your opinion. AND, you haven't once backed up your claim that there is different psychology behind it.

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A 1998 report by the American College of Emergency Physicians examined all deputy-involved shootings that occurred in the Los Angeles County, California, Sheriff’s Department.2 The findings revealed that suicide-by-cop incidents accounted for 11 percent of all deputy-involved shootings and 13 percent of all deputy-involved justifiable homicides. The report concluded that suicide by cop constitutes an actual form of suicide and defined it as “an incident where a suicidal individual intentionally engages in life-threatening and criminal behavior with a lethal weapon or what appears to be a lethal weapon toward law enforcement officers or civilians specifically to provoke officers to shoot the suicidal individual in self-defense or to protect civilians.” A strong relationship may exist between incidents where subjects killed or seriously assaulted law enforcement officers and those where offenders actually intended to commit suicide by deliberately compelling officers to use deadly force. Although complete statistics are unavailable, the limited ones that do exist beg further study.
So, instructors and psychologists for the FBI are run because RUOXAlum says so. I'm sure you have better credentials than a PhD or an MS, right?
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Old 06-25-2010, 08:52 PM
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Then what are you talking about? I never called you any names. And you said what I said was stupid, so that counts as you calling me stupid. You also gave me the finger via gif. I'm flattered.

And it's still called Homicide in England, not Suicide, so I think you proved my point for me.
You can argue that the name is stupid, but the process is the same. The person that dies sets out to force a police officer to kill him. They by definition are suicidal (want to die and are actively pursuing a course of action to bring on death.) The whole point is that the only reason the person in these cases is dead is because they purposely set out to die.
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