What do you feel like saying, right now?

[Phrozen Sands]

Alright y’all, so here’s the verdict. My friend I told y’all about who was giving her dude a Valentine’s gift that included a positive paternity test…. I hadn’t heard from her so I text her to see if dude was happy. She replied back and said he was surprised but wasn’t expecting it, and he didn’t seem happy at all. I told her I knew this was going to happen with his reaction. She said they went out to eat for the holiday and he was pretty quiet the whole time. She said he wasn’t present. His body was but his mind wasn’t there. When she asked him why he wasn’t happy, she told me he just said he doesn’t think they’re ready for this right now. She said he only ate a few bites of his food. What’d y’all think? I told you I’d keep y’all posted. I figured this would be the outcome though.

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

What’d y’all think? I told you I’d keep y’all posted. I figured this would be the outcome though.

I can't say I'm surprised. She's had time to process and come to terms with what happened, but this was an immense surprise for him. If they decided to keep the child, it will mean a whole lot of lifestyle changes and stress for both of them.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Oh, and I love that you met people naturally, because emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and character matter just as much as physical attraction. Social media thrives on drama, not reality. I mean, honestly? Love isn’t a transaction, it’s built on connection, not checklists.

I’m not sure if I’ve asked you or not, but how did you and your wife meet?

I've always thought that physical attraction can open a door, but a person's personality and character can make you stay in the room. That's why most of the people I see online screaming about dating politics and what a person should or shouldn't do look like caricatures to me.

We met in the US while she was on a homestay. I eventually moved in the same house as her, and we dated after a month or so of being in the same house/friends for a few months.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by AGDee

We had a great weekend. I was originally going to drive out Saturday but we had a winter storm warning for Saturday so I drove out there Friday night. I picked up some great desserts from a place called Tony Cannoli and he cooked us steaks. I introduced him to my favorite chocolate wine. We exchanged gifts- I gave him a gift certificate so he could pick out a candlelight concert to attend. I am NOT engaged- he gave me a beautiful lapis lazuli stone ring, a beautiful locket that we agreed we would put a picture of us from one of my sorority formals into, and a really cute candle that smells like vanilla and looks like a tree trunk/branches with "My Name + His Name" carved into it. So cute It was the first time in ages we didn't have to get up early so we talked until 3 am before we finally fell asleep. Saturday, we were meeting his mom and sister in East Lansing for dinner and to see MJ the Musical at Wharton Center. We drove home in an ice storm and that was pretty anxiety inducing. There was icy fog that kept icing over the windshield. We had the heat turned way up and blowing on the windshield and he was using a lot of washer fluid to keep the ice from building up and blocking his vision. We had to stop a couple times to refill his washer fluid. It was nerve wracking.

We didn't get back to his house until almost midnight.I woke up this morning and got ready to leave. I remote started my car because it had snow on it and then the ice from the night before and then more snow. He came to see how I was doing with getting ready to go and to ask if he could help with anything. I asked him to pack my keto snacks from the fridge and told him I remote started the car so it could start to melt. He opened the blinds and showed me that my car was already cleaned off. THAT is what I love about this man. That was so incredibly thoughtful. He's so kind to me. I had to time my drive home between the major snow squalls and thankfully my drive home was uneventful.



I think it's just about the only way to get the attention of the men who think women shouldn't have bodily autonomy.

P.S. He also had a dozen roses delivered to me on Wednesday so I could enjoy them since he knew I'd be gone for the weekend with him.

Would y’all just go on ahead and get married LOL!

This is good stuff, AGDee. I’m glad y’all enjoyed each other this holiday season. Do y’all get together every weekend or during the week too?

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

I can't say I'm surprised. She's had time to process and come to terms with what happened, but this was an immense surprise for him. If they decided to keep the child, it will mean a whole lot of lifestyle changes and stress for both of them.
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I don’t know dude, but based on what she’s been telling me, I don’t think he wants that baby anymore than I want one. They’ve only been together two years. I think that dude is cool with just a relationship so he can get consistent ass. That what that’s about.

[Phrozen Sands]

Those chicks aren’t getting dudes attention because they’ll just go to other chicks. And even those chicks, dudes that are smooth talkers can still get them to give in. There’s all kinds of separation movements going on now. Y’all ever heard of Monk Mode?

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Those chicks aren’t getting dudes attention because they’ll just go to other chicks. And even those chicks, dudes that are smooth talkers can still get them to give in. There’s all kinds of separation movements going on now. Y’all ever heard of Monk Mode?

I've heard of some of them like MGTOW and such but I've always viewed them as a vocal minority and the same way people watch nature documentaries.

[Zach]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

How so?

Both S. Korea and Japan have low birth rates, which decreases workforce numbers, with less consumers. The 4B movement rejects marriage and relationships so it contributes to it. When you have movements like this, dudes start doing it too, which discourages traditional family structures. You seen how wedding companies are going out of business? This is why.

To answer your question about who would cave first if every dude went on Monk Mode, and I’m talking Monk Mode extreme, where dudes ignored them, by just treating them like other dudes, women would lose their minds. They’d definitely cave first. It’d never happen, but I’m just entertaining the hypothetical.

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

I've heard of some of them like MGTOW and such but I've always viewed them as a vocal minority and the same way people watch nature documentaries.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Those chicks aren’t getting dudes attention because they’ll just go to other chicks. And even those chicks, dudes that are smooth talkers can still get them to give in. There’s all kinds of separation movements going on now. Y’all ever heard of Monk Mode?

I’m not part of any movements, but I’m aware of what they all are. If I had to put myself in a category tho, I’d say I was once MGTOW, but now I’m Monk Mode. It’s to the point that chicks really can’t bring anything to the table for me. Anything they have to offer isn’t worth it.

[Phrozen Sands]

I see your point about the drama and headaches some women can bring to relationships, but I like sex too much to throw in the towel LOL!

How do you figure they’d cave first before dudes? I’m just curious to read your perspective now knowing you said eff it and went full on monk mode. The other question I have for you, what if you met a chick who was FOINE, with a nice personality, would you leave your monk mode status?