What do you feel like saying, right now?

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Wtf is wrong with people?
https://futurism.com/chatbot-abuse

The dangerous part about things like this is that it normalizes that type of behavior outside the "relationship." So sharing and cheering on and discussing using abusive language with these chatbots further normalizes abusive relationships in general and leads to an impact on how (mostly) men treat the (mostly) women in their lives. Same thing as with the redpill/incel cultural stuff spilling out with Andrew Tate and the impact that social media influencers like him are having with their "manosphere" stuff.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

LOL! Dude said REAL. I hollered! You for real really think it’s going to come down to that, PB? Things have gotten weird, but I don’t think they’ll legalize marriage to a robot LOL.

Man, I don’t put anything past our changing society. Literally nothing.

We’ve got men competing in women’s sports today, and other foolishness that both you and I know about and know is wrong. We had this discussion in person, IRL a few days ago. 😂

I think it will happen because we live in an age where convenience has taken precedence over commitment. A.I. relationships are not just a technological advancement, they reflect a deeper cultural shift — one that prioritizes self-indulgence over self-sacrifice. To me, real relationships require patience, compromise, and effort. They refine us, challenge us, and ultimately make us better human beings. But when people choose A.I. “partners”, they are opting for a relationship that demands nothing of them while giving them the illusion of love.

This isn’t progress, man. This is emotional and spiritual stagnation, to me. Love, by its very nature, is a two-way street, because it requires mutual understanding, forgiveness, and personal growth. An A.I. “partner” cannot reciprocate love, cannot challenge a person to grow, and cannot fulfill the deep emotional and spiritual needs that only real human connection can provide. To me, this isn’t only about advancing society, it’s about replacing meaningful relationships with artificial substitutes that cater to personal desires without any real investment or responsibility.

If we continue down this road, what happens to our understanding of love? What happens when an entire generation is conditioned to believe that relationships should be effortless, conflict-free, and perfectly tailored to their desires? The natural result is a society incapable of deep emotional connection, unwilling to endure the difficulties that make love meaningful, and ultimately, disconnected from God’s design for human relationships. Don’t be surprised when this too is normalized, acceptable behavior. It’s up to you whether you, yourself choose to fall in line with what society says is okay.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by agzg

The dangerous part about things like this is that it normalizes that type of behavior outside the "relationship." So sharing and cheering on and discussing using abusive language with these chatbots further normalizes abusive relationships in general and leads to an impact on how (mostly) men treat the (mostly) women in their lives. Same thing as with the redpill/incel cultural stuff spilling out with Andrew Tate and the impact that social media influencers like him are having with their "manosphere" stuff.

I agree, but educate me on Andrew Tate. Who is he?

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Man, I don’t put anything past our changing society. Literally nothing.

We’ve got men competing in women’s sports today, and other foolishness that both you and I know about and know is wrong. We had this discussion in person, IRL a few days ago. 😂

I think it will happen because we live in an age where convenience has taken precedence over commitment. A.I. relationships are not just a technological advancement, they reflect a deeper cultural shift — one that prioritizes self-indulgence over self-sacrifice. To me, real relationships require patience, compromise, and effort. They refine us, challenge us, and ultimately make us better human beings. But when people choose A.I. “partners”, they are opting for a relationship that demands nothing of them while giving them the illusion of love.

This isn’t progress, man. This is emotional and spiritual stagnation, to me. Love, by its very nature, is a two-way street, because it requires mutual understanding, forgiveness, and personal growth. An A.I. “partner” cannot reciprocate love, cannot challenge a person to grow, and cannot fulfill the deep emotional and spiritual needs that only real human connection can provide. To me, this isn’t only about advancing society, it’s about replacing meaningful relationships with artificial substitutes that cater to personal desires without any real investment or responsibility.

If we continue down this road, what happens to our understanding of love? What happens when an entire generation is conditioned to believe that relationships should be effortless, conflict-free, and perfectly tailored to their desires? The natural result is a society incapable of deep emotional connection, unwilling to endure the difficulties that make love meaningful, and ultimately, disconnected from God’s design for human relationships. Don’t be surprised when this too is normalized, acceptable behavior. It’s up to you whether you, yourself choose to fall in line with what society says is okay.

True. But I think the fact that these dudes are abusive speaks volumes of why they’ve resorted to AI. They know women aren’t going to put up with that kind of behavior.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

I agree, but educate me on Andrew Tate. Who is he?

https://www.adl.org/resources/articl...ve-things-know

He's a social media guy who's popular among young men who blame women for all their problems.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

True. But I think the fact that these dudes are abusive speaks volumes of why they’ve resorted to AI. They know women aren’t going to put up with that kind of behavior.

Not necessarily. Some women will put up with it and stay in abusive relationships because in most cases, more likely than not, they grew up around abuse, so to them, it feels normal. When all they’ve known is control, manipulation, and conditional affection, real love can feel unfamiliar or even undeserved. With the men doing that to A.I., more likely than not, they also grew up abused or grew up seeing their parents in an abusive relationship or marriage.

Kids raised in abusive homes are more likely to end up and stay in toxic relationships because their brains are wired to equate chaos with connection. But the truth is, abuse isn’t love, it’s control. And no one deserves to live in fear disguised as devotion. A lot of times, this kind of behavior is generational.

[PrettyBoy]

On another note, UPS just delivered my Duesenberg Simone. As soon as I’m done eating dinner, I’m going to open it.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by agzg

The dangerous part about things like this is that it normalizes that type of behavior outside the "relationship." So sharing and cheering on and discussing using abusive language with these chatbots further normalizes abusive relationships in general and leads to an impact on how (mostly) men treat the (mostly) women in their lives. Same thing as with the redpill/incel cultural stuff spilling out with Andrew Tate and the impact that social media influencers like him are having with their "manosphere" stuff.

This. 100% this

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Wtf is wrong with people?
https://futurism.com/chatbot-abuse

Remember when we were all discussing viruses, and some of you said viruses are living and I said they’re not, and I gave a reason why they are not living organisms? Well, what you posted here is no different than a virus. What they both also have in common is they make people sick.

Omg, you should hear my techs at work. The terminology I hear them using when they talk about their dating lives, like “red pill”, “black pill” and some other terms that went way over my head… when I asked them what they were, when they explained it to me, I was like asking myself the same question you just asked yourself. “What is wrong with people?” Aye yai yai.

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Remember when we were all discussing viruses, and some of you said viruses are living and I said they’re not, and I gave a reason why they are not living organisms? Well, what you posted here is no different than a virus. What they both also have in common is they make people sick.

Omg, you should hear my techs at work. The terminology I hear them using when they talk about their dating lives, like “red pill”, “black pill” and some other terms that went way over my head… when I asked them what they were, when they explained it to me, I was like asking myself the same question you just asked yourself. “What is wrong with people?” Aye yai yai.

It's all just a sign of being connected to social media and other forms of Internet content all the time. People are so focused on the virtual world on a screen they forget or change how they interact with people in person.

Dating is just one facet of this. Some of the younger generations are learning that you may be able to talk trash online without any repercussions, but saying the same thing will get you popped in the mouth real quick.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by XAntoftheSkyX

It's all just a sign of being connected to social media and other forms of Internet content all the time. People are so focused on the virtual world on a screen they forget or change how they interact with people in person.

Dating is just one facet of this. Some of the younger generations are learning that you may be able to talk trash online without any repercussions, but saying the same thing will get you popped in the mouth real quick.

Oh, absolutely! I totally agree with you. Social media has totally reshaped how people interact, often in ways that make real-life connections awkward or even dysfunctional. And you’re so right about the consequences of the trash talking and disrespectful behavior. I mean, way back when, a reckless mouth might get you a quick smack, lesson learned. But now? People skip the slap and go straight to the trigger, which is just terrifying. It’s like we traded bruised egos for full-on catastrophe.

And don’t even get me started on relationships today. It’s like people have replaced genuine connection with performative nonsense for likes and validation. Loyalty is rare, emotional maturity is even rarer, and everything feels like a game no one actually wins. Honestly, I’m just SO glad I’m not in the dating pool anymore, because based on what I hear my techs talk about, it seems more like a toxic swamp at this point.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by agzg

https://www.adl.org/resources/articl...ve-things-know

He's a social media guy who's popular among young men who blame women for all their problems.

As soon as I opened up the link, I had a WTF moment at dude’s face. Y’all see his face? Dude is pissed LOL! He had to have had some bad experiences with women which is his fault because he chose them. Thanks for sharing this with me, agzg. I learned something new.

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Not necessarily. Some women will put up with it and stay in abusive relationships because in most cases, more likely than not, they grew up around abuse, so to them, it feels normal. When all they’ve known is control, manipulation, and conditional affection, real love can feel unfamiliar or even undeserved. With the men doing that to A.I., more likely than not, they also grew up abused or grew up seeing their parents in an abusive relationship or marriage.

Kids raised in abusive homes are more likely to end up and stay in toxic relationships because their brains are wired to equate chaos with connection. But the truth is, abuse isn’t love, it’s control. And no one deserves to live in fear disguised as devotion. A lot of times, this kind of behavior is generational.

True. I didn’t think about it being generational.

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

On another note, UPS just delivered my Duesenberg Simone. As soon as I’m done eating dinner, I’m going to open it.

You got another car? What kind is this one?

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Remember when we were all discussing viruses, and some of you said viruses are living and I said they’re not, and I gave a reason why they are not living organisms? Well, what you posted here is no different than a virus. What they both also have in common is they make people sick.

Omg, you should hear my techs at work. The terminology I hear them using when they talk about their dating lives, like “red pill”, “black pill” and some other terms that went way over my head… when I asked them what they were, when they explained it to me, I was like asking myself the same question you just asked yourself. “What is wrong with people?” Aye yai yai.

Yeah, I remember you comparing viruses to The Terminator.

I hear you on the terms. Somebody pulls a new word and definition out of their ass daily.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Oh, absolutely! I totally agree with you. Social media has totally reshaped how people interact, often in ways that make real-life connections awkward or even dysfunctional. And you’re so right about the consequences of the trash talking and disrespectful behavior. I mean, way back when, a reckless mouth might get you a quick smack, lesson learned. But now? People skip the slap and go straight to the trigger, which is just terrifying. It’s like we traded bruised egos for full-on catastrophe.

And don’t even get me started on relationships today. It’s like people have replaced genuine connection with performative nonsense for likes and validation. Loyalty is rare, emotional maturity is even rarer, and everything feels like a game no one actually wins. Honestly, I’m just SO glad I’m not in the dating pool anymore, because based on what I hear my techs talk about, it seems more like a toxic swamp at this point.

LMAO! It is though. You’re right. The woman I met while I was in Minneapolis at my fraternity event has been telling me about her dating experiences. I’ve been telling her about mine. Hers have all been bad like mine. She’s a school teacher and gets asked out by single dad’s all the time. She told me she’s been happy single because of how effed up dudes are today. We’ve been talking more than texting which we both agree on. She told me she doesn’t like texting as much because she can’t connect that way.

CG, I’m curious, when you were in the dating pool/swamp (LOL) back in the day, did you use dating apps or just meet random dude’s in person? Either way, I’ll bet you got a lot of attention.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

Yeah, I remember you comparing viruses to The Terminator.

Yep, and the AI chatbots operate the same way viruses do.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

LMAO! It is though. You’re right. The woman I met while I was in Minneapolis at my fraternity event has been telling me about her dating experiences. I’ve been telling her about mine. Hers have all been bad like mine. She’s a school teacher and gets asked out by single dad’s all the time. She told me she’s been happy single because of how effed up dudes are today. We’ve been talking more than texting which we both agree on. She told me she doesn’t like texting as much because she can’t connect that way.

That’s awesome, Phrozen! I hope everything works out for you.

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

CG, I’m curious, when you were in the dating pool/swamp (LOL) back in the day, did you use dating apps or just meet random dude’s in person? Either way, I’ll bet you got a lot of attention.

So, I was in the dating pool, like later 2007ish. Remember that guy I posted about who I was getting serious with in Minnesota before I moved to Michigan to go to vet school? — back when meeting someone meant actual eye contact and not just hoping your best selfie did all the work? After him, I decided to try one of the dating online thingies, so I thought, “Okay, let’s see what this is all about.” I mean, I didn’t believe in casual dating so while I was getting serious with that guy, at the time, I told other guys I had a boyfriend.

So, I made a profile, uploaded a picture, and then I started getting a lot of messages shortly after. I didn’t respond to any of them, but for a brief moment, I thought, “Wow, this is flattering.” But then reality hit. I was thinking like were any of these guys actually interested in me? Or was I just the next contestant on “The Price is Right” — Desperate Edition? It felt less like a dating site and more like a clearance sale where everyone was just grabbing whatever was available before the deal expired.

So, I deleted my profile the same day I opened it, and decided I’d rather stress over vet school instead. I mean, my textbooks didn’t send cringey pickup lines. 🫤

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Yep, and the AI chatbots operate the same way viruses do.

How so?

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

That’s awesome, Phrozen! I hope everything works out for you.

It hasn’t even been a week yet LOL. But here’s to hope.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

So, I was in the dating pool, like later 2007ish. Remember that guy I posted about who I was getting serious with in Minnesota before I moved to Michigan to go to vet school? — back when meeting someone meant actual eye contact and not just hoping your best selfie did all the work? After him, I decided to try one of the dating online thingies, so I thought, “Okay, let’s see what this is all about.” I mean, I didn’t believe in casual dating so while I was getting serious with that guy, at the time, I told other guys I had a boyfriend.

So, I made a profile, uploaded a picture, and then I started getting a lot of messages shortly after. I didn’t respond to any of them, but for a brief moment, I thought, “Wow, this is flattering.” But then reality hit. I was thinking like were any of these guys actually interested in me? Or was I just the next contestant on “The Price is Right” — Desperate Edition? It felt less like a dating site and more like a clearance sale where everyone was just grabbing whatever was available before the deal expired.

So, I deleted my profile the same day I opened it, and decided I’d rather stress over vet school instead. I mean, my textbooks didn’t send cringey pickup lines. 🫤

LMAO! What’d the messages say? Which dating site was it?

[Phrozen Sands]

Besides getting jelly filled, nasty ass, heart-shaped boxes of chocolate, what’s everybody got planned for Valentine’s Day?

[XAntoftheSkyX]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

And don’t even get me started on relationships today. It’s like people have replaced genuine connection with performative nonsense for likes and validation. Loyalty is rare, emotional maturity is even rarer, and everything feels like a game no one actually wins. Honestly, I’m just SO glad I’m not in the dating pool anymore, because based on what I hear my techs talk about, it seems more like a toxic swamp at this point.

I see so many clips of videos on social media of people acting crazy about dating, relationships, marriage and kids that I cannot believe those are their opinions. Men shaming women for having a higher body count than they want, and women shaming men for not having a high-paying job in the six to seven figures. Both have very unrealistic standards for a date's physical appearance in stereotypical ways.

I never went to bars, I never hit on women at clubs, every woman I dated were friends or people I met through social groups or shared activities. Plenty of them had issues, of which I'm also not innocent of. But they were much more down to earth than the people you see all over social media perpetuating these realities until they manifest in other's lives.