Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by Hoosierxgirl

Whoa whoa whoa...I NEVER said anything about how good or bad a sisterhood would be. Big or small. In fact, I said the experience would be mostly positive.

I am saying that it would be a large adjustment and that the logistics would be harder to overcome for a system that isn't used to such large chapters (I tend to think 150 women is pretty large) I think we already do many of things you just described (event centers, buses, committees, etc.) as well.

I'm not saying it can't be done or it shouldn't be done. I'm just pointing out one little reason why suddenly switching to a quota system would be hard.

And again, I'm not turning my nose up at anyone. I'm pointing out a popular opinion that has been raised in my time at IU. I do not condone that opinion nor do I claim to hold it.

Mostly positive is by definition not positive.
And just because it is different then your experience does not mean it could not be as good or better.

[Hoosierxgirl]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Mostly positive is by definition not positive.
And just because it is different then your experience does not mean it could not be as good or better.

I never said that. Once again I am making clearly that these are not MY opinions. These are things that have been brought up many people in the Greek System and contribute to why this system hasn't changed in 30+ years.

I know the process is flawed and I know it needs to be changed. When I was a Rho Gamma, it broke my heart that almost half of my group didn't receive bids. Especially because I knew most of them would have made very positive additions to the Greek System. It also broke my heart that my sister and I were the only women from our dorm floor to get bids - and we were both CORs. It's awful for everyone involved.

I think many of your have excellent points and the further removed I get from the IU recruitment process, the more I see the issues. I think we can all agree that something needs to be and that is going to take a huge shift in attitude and culture.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Titchou

I have no clue how this got slanted to house corporations being an issue.

I don't either, except for maybe the house corps are the ones most concerned with OMG MUST FILL HOUSE and not wanting to do anything to upset the applecart. That is how I took it, anyway.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I...can't think of a single chapter for which that is true.

I can.

Originally Posted by HQWest

(BTW - Texas A&M, U. Texas, The Ohio State, Penn State, Florida - are all bigger than IUB AND have flourishing Greek life AND they rank higher too.)

I know the argument you're trying to make and agree with it, but Penn State really isn't a good one to throw into this since the sororities have suites instead of houses. Also the fact that Pennsylvania has extremely parochial liquor laws (i.e. you don't mind leaving the suite your senior year) plays into it too.

Originally Posted by Rhomom

Lastly, IU admissions has no control over the current system, nor does the administration, the board of trustees or the dean of students. Short of removing sororities from campus, their hands are tied. I know this because I am also an IU "employee". Believe me, we are bracing for unhappy students and parents, and are very, very tired of the way things are done. The only people that can change this is panhel, individual nationals and NPC.

Could the administration derecognize groups if they don't adopt (example) a senior live-out policy? Kind of like if the states didn't adopt the 21 drinking age they forfeited federal highway funding?

If you are comfortable with it, could you elaborate as to why exactly their hands are so tied? GLOs are on campuses at the invitation of the campus. There have been lots of instances of things on here that GLOs didn't like or were flat out against policy that they had to do because the campus said so.

And everyone needs to chill on the IU students that are posting here and think about how you would have felt when you were 18-21 and someone proposed something that to your line of thinking would completely change your life. Good Lord, I've heard of knock down drag-outs in Panhellenics over raising or lowering total by 5 people. This is quite a bit more of a deal.