UF Spring Recruitment!!

[GatorPNM]

Hey, I'll try to explain and answer some questions here! I just got home
So we visited all 11 chapters today. They are allowed to call us beginning at 7 PM tomorrow to extend bids. We have 48 hours to accept/decline a bid after it has been placed. They can extend bids for the next few weeks. Say if they have 10 spots available, extend 10 bids, 5 decline, they can extend 5 more.

They raised total by ~20 AFTER formal recruitment, so way more had to participate this year than usual. It was still a little frustrating though that (as always I'm assuming) some sororities are only extending bids to 3 or 4 girls, so you don't really have a chance from the start.

I can tell my mini recruitment story here! Is that allowed?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by GatorPNM

Hey, I'll try to explain and answer some questions here! I just got home
So we visited all 11 chapters today. They are allowed to call us beginning at 7 PM tomorrow to extend bids. We have 48 hours to accept/decline a bid after it has been placed. They can extend bids for the next few weeks. Say if they have 10 spots available, extend 10 bids, 5 decline, they can extend 5 more.

They raised total by ~20 AFTER formal recruitment, so way more had to participate this year than usual. It was still a little frustrating though that (as always I'm assuming) some sororities are only extending bids to 3 or 4 girls, so you don't really have a chance from the start.

I can tell my mini recruitment story here! Is that allowed?

You can, but to be easily found in the future, you may want to start another thread.

[UFgatorLove]

Originally Posted by GatorPNM

Hey, I'll try to explain and answer some questions here! I just got home
So we visited all 11 chapters today. They are allowed to call us beginning at 7 PM tomorrow to extend bids. We have 48 hours to accept/decline a bid after it has been placed. They can extend bids for the next few weeks. Say if they have 10 spots available, extend 10 bids, 5 decline, they can extend 5 more.

They raised total by ~20 AFTER formal recruitment, so way more had to participate this year than usual. It was still a little frustrating though that (as always I'm assuming) some sororities are only extending bids to 3 or 4 girls, so you don't really have a chance from the start.

I can tell my mini recruitment story here! Is that allowed?

Also, girls may receive more than one bid. There was no structure to the day, and I felt bad for the girls who started off late and didn't realize just how much time it could take.

The chapters not participating are not all above total, but their nationals or advisers may not say they have to participate. Its always like that at UF. So, its usually very random as to who ends up participating!

All in all it was a very good day, from what I could see!

[33girl]

Originally Posted by UFgatorLove

Also, girls may receive more than one bid. There was no structure to the day, and I felt bad for the girls who started off late and didn't realize just how much time it could take.

The chapters not participating are not all above total, but their nationals or advisers may say they have to participate. Its always like that at UF. So, its usually very random as to who ends up participating!

All in all it was a very good day, from what I could see!

Did I FYP correctly? As in, even if a chapter is above total, they may be told by their nationals they have to participate anyway? Are their nationals aware this isn't just an informational type event - that the majority of the PNMs assume that if a sorority is at this event, they are under total and can give bids? I mean, making one of your chapters appear there if they aren't "open for business" could result in PNMs getting very pissed off at them. I don't think any group wants that.

It sounds like there's some a lot of miscommunication going on between PNMs, nationals, GLOs and Panhel.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Did I FYP correctly? As in, even if a chapter is above total, they may be told by their nationals they have to participate anyway? Are their nationals aware this isn't just an informational type event - that the majority of the PNMs assume that if a sorority is at this event, they are under total and can give bids? I mean, making one of your chapters appear there if they aren't "open for business" could result in PNMs getting very pissed off at them. I don't think any group wants that.

It sounds like there's some a lot of miscommunication going on between PNMs, nationals, GLOs and Panhel.

No, she said that the chapters that are NOT participating aren't all over total. They may have spaces open to take women, but they aren't being forced by advisors or their nationals to participate.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

No, she said that the chapters that are NOT participating aren't all over total. They may have spaces open to take women, but they aren't being forced by advisors or their nationals to participate.

I guess I wonder then why bring up nationals or advisors at all? I mean the school can't tell the nationals/advisors what to tell the individual groups...either with what you said above or what I said. I'm sure some of the groups don't want to participate, but I am also reasonably sure that if they're 30% under total and tell their nationals they don't want to, their nationals are going to have a cow.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I guess I wonder then why bring up nationals or advisors at all? I mean the school can't tell the nationals/advisors what to tell the individual groups...either with what you said above or what I said. I'm sure some of the groups don't want to participate, but I am also reasonably sure that if they're 30% under total and tell their nationals they don't want to, their nationals are going to have a cow.

Yeah, but I think spring recruitment has always been seen as a bad thing so no one wanted to participate. Maybe their nationals would be okay to not do it if they thought it would make the chapter look bad. (With 11 chapters participating, it would be a hard sell, but they may try.) I can tell you, AOII IHQ would say, "Get your butts in there!"

[33girl]

I think it sounds like they are confusing "partially structured" with "partially informed."

[Old_Row]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I mean, making one of your chapters appear there if they aren't "open for business" could result in PNMs getting very pissed off at them. I don't think any group wants that.

I think that's what they did last year; required all the chapters to be there at the kickoff event. It was like a bait and switch. Most were not taking new members and that caused a lot of anger among the PNMs once they found out who was participating.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by GatorPNM

Hey, I'll try to explain and answer some questions here! I just got home
So we visited all 11 chapters today. They are allowed to call us beginning at 7 PM tomorrow to extend bids. We have 48 hours to accept/decline a bid after it has been placed. They can extend bids for the next few weeks. Say if they have 10 spots available, extend 10 bids, 5 decline, they can extend 5 more.

They raised total by ~20 AFTER formal recruitment, so way more had to participate this year than usual. It was still a little frustrating though that (as always I'm assuming) some sororities are only extending bids to 3 or 4 girls, so you don't really have a chance from the start.

I can tell my mini recruitment story here! Is that allowed?

yep, here it is.

Anyone know what total at UF currently is?

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

yep, here it is.

Anyone know what total at UF currently is?

Looks like it was 160 last year? I don't know how much they raised it though? Does anyone know? Here is last springs grade reports -

https://www.studentinvolvement.ufl.e...mic_Report.pdf

It includes who took spring new members last year - PiPhi, DZ, PhiMu, and AXO?

[GatorPNM]

Being on the other side of it... it kind of does stink! Because I do have a top three, but I loved all of the girls I talked to! I would honestly be happy to join any of the sisterhoods I was at yesterday.
So because I'm assuming most girls are going to wait a little bit to accept/decline their bids, (just to see if any one else calls) even if I wait, I may already accept one and then my #1 could call 5 minutes later.
It sort of makes sense to say "Well, they didn't want you first anyway!" But some of them may only have 5 bids to give out! So if I'm #6 I'm not complaining! Especially because I'm a sophomore and I'm assuming some sororities already had friends lined up for the bids they had to give out.
Sorry this wasn't incredibly informational to anyone else! Just sayin'!

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by GatorPNM

It sort of makes sense to say "Well, they didn't want you first anyway!" But some of them may only have 5 bids to give out! So if I'm #6 I'm not complaining! Especially because I'm a sophomore and I'm assuming some sororities already had friends lined up for the bids they had to give out.
Sorry this wasn't incredibly informational to anyone else! Just sayin'!

Don't apologize! Believe me, we love hearing about recruitment (even informal!) from a PNM's perspective!

Did you visit all 11 yesterday?

Also, you shouldn't feel like "oh, I'm less wanted than the first five bids they give out, even if you are #6". Because bids are not going through PH, and the procedure is a little, um, chaotic, chapters probably sat around last night playing the same guessing game you did. So, in addition to how much they like* a PNM, they also have to consider how likely a PNM is to accept their bid. Just as you are worried about receiving bids in the wrong order, they are worried about giving them in the wrong order. They don't want to bid Suzie PNM who they love so much, if Suzie might sit on her bid for 48 hours and then decline.

I don't know if I'm making a whole ton of sense, but I'm trying to say that UF hasn't worked out the kinks of having a structured spring recruitment, and it sounds like maybe they also haven't communicated very well, so if you get a bid late or something, you shouldn't automatically think it means that you were "less-wanted".

Bids can be offered starting tonight?

*and by like, I mean how well she meets their membership criteria and all that

[GatorPNM]

I just received a bid from my number two (and one more!). I'm VERY excited! But I have to say I'm a little disappointed that my number 1 didn't call. I know it's only been 25 minutes, but I think they had several callers call everyone at 7 to try and call first. I'm still holding out, but the more I think about it, I think my number two may be the best place for me. I keep thinking (and was sort of last night too) that I was having rosy thoughts about number one and it maybe it wasn't as great as I remembered it to be.
Either way, I'll post my recruitment story as soon as the dust all settles and I figure out where I'm going to be!

[UFgatorLove]

I'm so excited you've started receiving calls! Its so exciting!
I can't wait to hear your story! Would you post a link to it here once you do have time to sit down and write it!?!