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Old 11-09-2011, 09:45 AM
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I agree and I also do not condone his actions.

I still think that Rihanna was probably acting out of control in the car and he reacted in a way to stop her from doing whatever he was doing. That doesn't make it okay but it makes it self-defense (correct??) even if it appears that he went too far in the self-defense. Depending on who I say that around, some people will agree and some people will say "THERE IS NEVER A REASON...NEVER A REASON." Sure, there is never a reason but sometimes "I don't condone it but I understand" can be applied to both woman-on-man and man-on-woman intimate partner violence. Or...can it?
I completely agree. Rihanna came out of this scot-free, but I think there had to be a DAMN good reason for him to put both of their lives in jeopardy in that car.

Now -- I would never hit a woman. Ever. However, some women* take advantage of that and come at men with the "Whatchu gon' do? Hit me? I wish you would! Try it. I wish you would!"

Say that enough times and you'll find someone who will take you up on your offer.

ETA: Women aren't the only ones taking advantage.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:08 AM
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I completely agree. Rihanna came out of this scot-free, but I think there had to be a DAMN good reason for him to put both of their lives in jeopardy in that car.

Now -- I would never hit a woman. Ever. However, some women take advantage of that and come at men with the "Whatchu gon' do? Hit me? I wish you would! Try it. I wish you would!"

Say that enough times and you'll find someone who will take you up on your offer.
Exactly. I knew a man whose crazy wife used to get angry and mess with the steering wheeling, the car key, and attempt to place the car in something other than drive when they were driving on the highway with their child in the backseat. He said it took everything in him to not punch the shit out of her for the safety of everyone in the car. Thankfully, he was able to smack her hands out the way and beg her to stop. He waited until they got home and he finally filed for divorce. The things is, guess who got custody of the child? Not the father because he apparently could not prove that she was an unfit parent. Guess who would have possibly been arrested had the wife been punched and the police been called? In most jurisdictions, the husband or both of them. I wonder what would have happened if he had not punched her but called the police because she was behaving dangerously on the highway.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:25 PM
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Now -- I would never hit a woman. Ever. However, some women* take advantage of that and come at men with the "Whatchu gon' do? Hit me? I wish you would! Try it. I wish you would!"

Say that enough times and you'll find someone who will take you up on your offer.
I'm having flashbacks of that video of the McDonald's employee beating an irate female customer with a crowbar! Did she "deserve" it? No...but in this society, where many, many people are teetering on the edge of sanity, it is NOT smart to start screaming "DO SOMETHIN! DO SOMETHIN!" 2 inches from someone's face...

OT, but I just thought of that...Actually kind of on topic, since violence by women is escalating, and is bound to translate as an increase of women AS batterers.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:40 PM
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I'm having flashbacks of that video of the McDonald's employee beating an irate female customer with a crowbar! Did she "deserve" it? No...but in this society, where many, many people are teetering on the edge of sanity, it is NOT smart to start screaming "DO SOMETHIN! DO SOMETHIN!" 2 inches from someone's face...

OT, but I just thought of that...Actually kind of on topic, since violence by women is escalating, and is bound to translate as an increase of women AS batterers.
I remember that. She jumped on the counter and into the kitchen area. Did she think they were NOT going to try to contain her? Unfortunately, she confronted the wrong individual.
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