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10-11-2011, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BluPhire
Whatever you are comfortable with. There is no right answer. Joint works for some marriages, separate works for others. That's one of those dealbreakers that needs to be discussed before saying I do.
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This is pretty much what it is.
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Originally Posted by DrPhil
Both.
Joint accounts for joint expenses. Separate accounts for separate expenses.
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I like the idea of having two accounts, but I'd rather "divy up" the whole thing. She has her account and I have mine. I also believe in splitting up the bills. I pay half of the bills and she pays the other half. I could see later opening up a savings if we had kids, but I'd rather do two separate accounts because bills and other expenses can be handled that way, too.
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
All our money goes in the same pot, but all our accounts are in my name. Husband is stereotypical Latino that doesn't like banks. He's got a credit card, but prefers to use cash for everything anyway.
Our finances work just fine because he feels like I make more, so I should be able to spend more, and I just consider it all "our money". This will get interesting when I'm in school and have ZERO income for 9 months. At least our living expense money is coming from the equity in the house which is in my name, so I'll feel like I'm contributing...maybe?
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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek
Joint only -two accounts, a savings and a checking, but both accounts will be joint accounts.
Premarital counseling is important, but I just think that it’s much more to it than that. A lot of couples do seek counsel, but the bottom line -a lot will depend on aligning with the right partner in the right way at the right time if it’s going to work. I just think it’s important choosing someone who is like me, yet different –being the same in his inner core but different in function. Temperaments and occupations can be different, but our values need to be as similar as possible. Opposites attract, but in most cases, they cannot maintain a long-term connection because they are not really compatible, even if they seem to agree on things when meeting with a counselor. In order for that marriage to be secure, whether you choose a joint account or individual accounts, you (in general) and your partner must operate from the same platform. You can find that out simply by letting time do its work, because the personality that was hidden from you before eventually comes to the forefront. I’d rather wait to see those things before I even make it to premarital counseling. But that’s just me.
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As I was reading about this topic, I found all the comments to be interesting, but they all were saying the same thing except you two. I think these comments were cool back in the day and worked for people back then, but the world is different now. Both women and men are working, and more women are doing better than men financially now, so I think it's natural for both men and women to have their own just incase. It doesn't mean they don't trust each other, and it doesn't mean their marriage is going to fail, it's just a safety net because like the saying goes "shit happens" LOL. I laughing but it's true.
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I know I'm going to sound all fuddy-duddy bemoaning the downfall of today's society, but I can't help but think that issues like this make divorce more common. Not just the actual financial issues, but the fact that we have trained ourselves to CYA in regards to marriage. We go in with contingency plans and ready to bail if we feel it necessary. We make it easy because then if things don't work out, we can shrug our shoulders and move on. What would happen if people once again treated marriage of less of an experiment and more of a serious commitment? I feel that if you're seriously ready to make that kind of commitment to someone, you should be ready to tie yourselves irrevocably to that person. And this is coming from someone who many people would feel has had plenty of legitimate "excuses" to throw in the towel and not look back.
/soapbox sermon
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You're still two individual people so you might go in thinking "I'm not going to bail" but how do you know he isn't going to do in with that attitude? Why do you think people get prenups? It's a safety measure. I see what you and Cheerful Greek are saying, but we don't live in that kind of society anymore. If that's working for y'all then I'm all for you doing what works for you, I just don't see that as covering yourself very well.
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10-11-2011, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963
As I was reading about this topic, I found all the comments to be interesting, but they all were saying the same thing except you two. I think these comments were cool back in the day and worked for people back then, but the world is different now. Both women and men are working, and more women are doing better than men financially now, so I think it's natural for both men and women to have their own just incase. It doesn't mean they don't trust each other, and it doesn't mean their marriage is going to fail, it's just a safety net because like the saying goes "shit happens" LOL. I laughing but it's true.
You're still two individual people so you might go in thinking "I'm not going to bail" but how do you know he isn't going to do in with that attitude? Why do you think people get prenups? It's a safety measure. I see what you and Cheerful Greek are saying, but we don't live in that kind of society anymore. If that's working for y'all then I'm all for you doing what works for you, I just don't see that as covering yourself very well.
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See previous post where everything is in my name, except one credit card.
Seriously, I'll admit I might feel different if my name wasn't on everything, but I'll also say that if my husband ever changed his mind, I would haul him down to the bank the next day and put his name on everything.
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10-11-2011, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963
Why do you think people get prenups? It's a safety measure.
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Prenups and day to day accounts are two VERY different issues. If I was living at the family farm that had been in our family since the War of 1812, no matter how much I trusted and loved the guy, I would get a prenup just to keep family peace.
Day to day and how you handle it is all about you two. Prenups are often not.
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10-12-2011, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963
but the world is different now.
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I don't choose my partner (potential husband) based on "worldy" views/values. Let's get that part straight before you continue to post/respond to me about this topic.
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Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963
Both women and men are working, and more women are doing better than men financially now, so I think it's natural for both men and women to have their own just incase. It doesn't mean they don't trust each other, and it doesn't mean their marriage is going to fail, it's just a safety net because like the saying goes "shit happens" LOL. I laughing but it's true.
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Of course I believe that partnership should bring financial increase. I also understand that most couples have two incomes to share. I just think that the goal should be to live on one income (our incomes as one) then, to save and give from the other (a savings account)...again, one income (our incomes as one). But it's not just about finances for me. It's about patience and doing my homework to know if it's someone I am compatible with, as I posted before. Did you read it?
I want to know more than just how he handles money and the whole joint or separate accounts thing. I want to know what he wants his life to look like over time. I might find that my goals are different. How does he spend his money? How does he handle stress? How does he speak to me and others? Is he sensitive and considerate to my needs? What is his attitude toward my views, goals, and gifts? Is he a man of discipline –faithful to keep his word? What is his reputation like at church, at work, among his family and friends? What is his relationship with God like? What is his sense of community at work and church as well as at home? It’s more about just finances to me, and this is just a short list. In other words, by the time I reach the altar, I should already know or have a very good idea what kind of man I have chosen to spend the rest of my life with.
What you (in general) believe about the possibilities of the relationship as well as what you believe about your partner will affect how your relationship works. I believe that there is faith in love. People bail out of love, bad health happens, money issues devastate relationships, etc. The list of things that can damage or destroy a marriage is long, it's not just finances. Yet love can prevail in the midst of trying circumstances. It comes down to commitment. Emotions follow decisions, so if there is no “out” clause in your mind, heart, or spirit, you can create determination to work through whatever changes come (provided there is no cheating, verbal, and or physical abuse involved. I’m not putting up with that). Marriage is a covenant, not a contract. The things we build are devastated when we don’t adhere to the promises we make. The home, the family unit, the children, and all that goes into the making of a marriage suffer when promises made are not promises kept. All of this is a matter of faith (to me). We adhere to what we believe. We abandon anything we have no faith in, and you can only take hold of what you envision through the eyes of your belief. I believe in who I have chosen as my partner for several reasons, but mainly because we have similar values and beliefs. Faith in my relationship, in my partner, and in the ability of God to keep what I cannot keep myself will help me stand firm even if the foundation is shaking. Again, it's about being "like-minded"...Christian beliefs or not. "Shit happens" when you don't have enough patience to do your homework.
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Originally Posted by Cen1aur 1963
I see what you and cheerfulgreek are saying,
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No you don't.
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