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09-11-2011, 02:06 PM
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There's a difference between having Christian ideals and being a Christian sorority. Lots of Christian ideals are just cool in general (i.e. love your neighbor) whether you're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, whatever.
Just because a sorority has Christ or a saint as their patron or exemplar does NOT mean Christians are unwelcome or would be uncomfortable there. Many sororities have Greek gods or goddesses as exemplars and that certainly doesn't mean they worship them. Many sororities were FOUNDED on Christian ideals, but all 26 NPC groups do not discriminate on religion. What they may have done 70 years ago is not relevant today.
However, if you're really talking about a Christian sorority - as in not one of the 26 NPC groups, as in a group where you have to be a professed Christian to belong - that's another kettle of fish. I would wonder, however, why such a group would be going the whole way through rush with the other NPC groups.
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09-11-2011, 02:14 PM
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There's a difference between having Christian ideals and being a Christian sorority. Lots of Christian ideals are just cool in general (i.e. love your neighbor) whether you're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, whatever.
Just because a sorority has Christ or a saint as their patron or exemplar does NOT mean Christians are unwelcome or would be uncomfortable there. Many sororities have Greek gods or goddesses as exemplars and that certainly doesn't mean they worship them. Many sororities were FOUNDED on Christian ideals, but all 26 NPC groups do not discriminate on religion. What they may have done 70 years ago is not relevant today.
However, if you're really talking about a Christian sorority - as in not one of the 26 NPC groups, as in a group where you have to be a professed Christian to belong - that's another kettle of fish. I would wonder, however, why such a group would be going the whole way through rush with the other NPC groups.
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All I can tell you is that it did not sit well with me, if you don't trust your gut instinct what else is there to go on? I've tried foods that I thought I would despise but ended up loving at virtually no cost to me. I don't want to join a sorority that I didn't feel right about after paying a lot of money to "possibly like it." If I knew that there was nothing stopping me from going forward I would have continued on. I don't have mommy and daddy supporting me like many of the girls at my school do, so my money is just as important as my time. I want to belong to a sorority that I feel very comfortable with. I respect the individual values that each group has, but the last two were not for me. It's as simple as that.
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09-11-2011, 02:34 PM
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If you didn't like a group you didn't like it. That's fine. But to blame it on their "Christian ideals" really isn't accurate in this day and age when all 26 NPCs have clauses forbidding discrimination based on religion.
If THAT CHAPTER has a lot of girls who are into going to church multiple times a week, Bible study, witnessing their faith etc etc, just please know that it is THAT CHAPTER, and not the national organization as a whole. The chapter at the school 5 miles down the road might be filled with Druids.
This may sound like nitpicking to you, but a lot of chapter vs. national misconceptions come up in rush and those conceptions can harm our groups as far as future colonizations and such.
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09-11-2011, 02:44 PM
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If you didn't like a group you didn't like it. That's fine. But to blame it on their "Christian ideals" really isn't accurate in this day and age when all 26 NPCs have clauses forbidding discrimination based on religion.
If THAT CHAPTER has a lot of girls who are into going to church multiple times a week, Bible study, witnessing their faith etc etc, just please know that it is THAT CHAPTER, and not the national organization as a whole. The chapter at the school 5 miles down the road might be filled with Druids.
This may sound like nitpicking to you, but a lot of chapter vs. national misconceptions come up in rush and those conceptions can harm our groups as far as future colonizations and such.
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I'm not really blaming it on their "Christian ideals;" that's just how they are and that's fine, but it isn't for me. I'm not putting any sororities down for it or making judgments that "oh they must all be that way." I'm sure that every chapter is unique in their own way. It just wasn't for me. If we don't go by how we feel, how else can we figure out what is right for us? If I was even confused about what to do I would have stuck it out. I really like the idea of helping start a new chapter at my school, it would be a great opportunity to start something great. No offense to the other sororities, but when my top choice didn't choose me, my heart wasn't even the least bit in it with the remaining sororities. It's hard when your school has only 4 compared to others that have as many as 16.
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09-11-2011, 04:04 PM
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I'm not really blaming it on their "Christian ideals;" that's just how they are and that's fine, but it isn't for me. I'm not putting any sororities down for it or making judgments that "oh they must all be that way." I'm sure that every chapter is unique in their own way. It just wasn't for me. If we don't go by how we feel, how else can we figure out what is right for us? If I was even confused about what to do I would have stuck it out. I really like the idea of helping start a new chapter at my school, it would be a great opportunity to start something great. No offense to the other sororities, but when my top choice didn't choose me, my heart wasn't even the least bit in it with the remaining sororities. It's hard when your school has only 4 compared to others that have as many as 16.
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But you didn't give the other three a fair chance. You didn't have enough information to make that decision.
How do you know you'll like the new chapter? You probably know as much (meaning as little, or less) as you do about the four on campus. But alas, what do I know?
So what kind of advice are you possibly asking for?
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09-11-2011, 04:39 PM
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But you didn't give the other three a fair chance. You didn't have enough information to make that decision.
How do you know you'll like the new chapter? You probably know as much (meaning as little, or less) as you do about the four on campus. But alas, what do I know?
So what kind of advice are you possibly asking for?
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As I stated previously, I did hang out with the girls from the sororities before recruitment when they would gather all together. I didn't feel a connection to them in that way throughout the whole time. So it depends on what you mean by not having enough information. There is no guarantee with a new chapter, but if I get in then I can help start it and make it great. It's hard when you already have an established sorority and you're trying to get in as a junior and also try to get a position.
I guess the advice i was asking for was if going through the recruitment process with the new colony would be a good idea and also if I made the right decision by not going with sororities i felt absolutely NO connection to (and not just during recruitment). Not to mention one of them I haven't talked much about seemed absolutely BORED during recruitment.
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09-11-2011, 06:27 PM
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I guess the advice i was asking for was...also if I made the right decision by not going with sororities i felt absolutely NO connection to (and not just during recruitment). Not to mention one of them I haven't talked much about seemed absolutely BORED during recruitment.
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If that's a question, no, you didn't make the right decision.
No one is saying you should have signed a bid with a group that you weren't feeling at all, but just going to the parties and trying to make conversation might have helped you a lot in getting over your shyness.
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