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Old 05-12-2011, 11:14 AM
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I am personally not going to support laws that I think blatantly condone a sinful act.
Well golly, thanks for saving our souls! THANK GOD we have people out there who are going to do their best to keep the rest of us from sinning, by force if they have to!
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:24 AM
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Well golly, thanks for saving our souls! THANK GOD we have people out there who are going to do their best to keep the rest of us from sinning, by force if they have to!
You're welcome!

And besides, I am only one person with one vote, but I will do my best.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:46 AM
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Nope, sorry, that's not how intolerance works. You hold bigoted beliefs about gays. I, on the other hand, have said nothing negative about your religion (in fact, I don't even know which religion it is), except that you shouldn't use it to justify your bigoted beliefs.
Actually, that's exactly how intolerance and bigotry work.

sigmadiva said something you perceived as bigoted. For the record, while I do not agree with her statement or share her belief, I'm not sure it really meets the definition of bigoted either, which is being intolerant of a differing belief, creed or opinion. Not thinking something is good or right or not supporting something is not necessarily the same as being intolerant of those who think differently.

But even if it was a bigoted statement, you responded with what can be perceived as an equally bigoted response: That your idea of what is right should trump someone else's religion, even when you don't know what that religion is. You even go so far as to tell her how she should and shouldn't approach her religion by telling her that she shouldn't use it to justify her bigotry. From my perspective, that doesn't put you in a very good position to call others out for intolerance or bigotry.

It is not intolerant to disagree with someone. It is not intolerant to argue vehemently against the beliefs of another. But it is intolerant to dismiss the beliefs of another on the grounds that they don't mesh with your own.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:01 PM
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Actually, that's exactly how intolerance and bigotry work.

sigmadiva said something you perceived as bigoted. For the record, while I do not agree with her statement or share her belief, I'm not sure it really meets the definition of bigoted either, which is being intolerant of a differing belief, creed or opinion. Not thinking something is good or right or not supporting something is not necessarily the same as being intolerant of those who think differently.

But even if it was a bigoted statement, you responded with what can be perceived as an equally bigoted response: That your idea of what is right should trump someone else's religion, even when you don't know what that religion is. You even go so far as to tell her how she should and shouldn't approach her religion by telling her that she shouldn't use it to justify her bigotry. From my perspective, that doesn't put you in a very good position to call others out for intolerance or bigotry.

It is not intolerant to disagree with someone. It is not intolerant to argue vehemently against the beliefs of another. But it is intolerant to dismiss the beliefs of another on the grounds that they don't mesh with your own.
Exactly, bigotry exists on both sides of the aisle.

Yes, there is still an aisle and there are still sides.
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