NPC adding new council members--do you think it could/will happen?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

As long as it is clear and understood that one is not the same as the other. And that one can not and should not be used to justify the other, as the quote 33girl provided implied. That is what I was responding to.

In my book, it is a sin to be gay. It is not a sin to be Black, although some would try to make you think it is.

I am personally not going to support laws that I think blatantly condone a sinful act.

Just clarifying for you.

And I won't address the rest of the post in order to keep this thread SOMEWHAT on topic.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Just clarifying for you.

And I won't address the rest of the post in order to keep this thread SOMEWHAT on topic.

Good call!

[Munchkin03]

So we DO eventually fall into bigotry in this thread--but not a race war. Imagine that!

NPC/NPHC collaborations are rare, and I think a lot of it has to do with the self-segregating/highly secretive nature of some NPHC groups on some college campuses. Also, I've personally experienced a level of condescension from NPHC members who believe that "all [we] do is drink," or that our commitment isn't lifetime. That's not exactly uncommon.

But, that's totally fine with me.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

So we DO eventually fall into bigotry in this thread--but not a race war. Imagine that!

It's just another fun day on GC!!!

NPC/NPHC collaborations are rare, and I think a lot of it has to do with the self-segregating/highly secretive nature of some NPHC groups on some college campuses. Also, I've personally experienced a level of condescension from NPHC members who believe that "all [we] do is drink," or that our commitment isn't lifetime. That's not exactly uncommon.

But, that's totally fine with me.

And the reverse is true when it comes to perceived stereotypes about the NPHC - that we are all about line names, line numbers, our calls and stepping.

And, from what I've learned on GC, I don't see where the NPHC is any more selective than the NPC.

We both factor GPA as an important criteria, we both look for potential members who will represent our orgs well, we both have to deal with heli-moms and dads. A lot of the issue that the NPC has to deal with in membership selection are the same for the NPHC.

I think one difference is in the time frame that membership selection is done. For the NPC, it is all done over a 3 - 5 or 7 day period. For the NPHC, we typically offer interest meetings and seminars where people can participate over a semester before membership selection, or MIP, is started.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

It's just another fun day on GC!!!



And the reverse is true when it comes to perceived stereotypes about the NPHC - that we are all about line names, line numbers, our calls and stepping.

And, from what I've learned on GC, I don't see where the NPHC is any more selective than the NPC.

We both factor GPA as an important criteria, we both look for potential members who will represent our orgs well, we both have to deal with heli-moms and dads. A lot of the issue that the NPC has to deal with in membership selection are the same for the NPHC.

I think one difference is in the time frame that membership selection is done. For the NPC, it is all done over a 3 - 5 or 7 day period. For the NPHC, we typically offer interest meetings and seminars where people can participate over a semester before membership selection, or MIP, is started.

Were you trying to teach me about the differences between NPC and NPHC groups?

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Were you trying to teach me about the differences between NPC and NPHC groups?

No. I was just trying to show that while you expressed concern over how the NPC is wrongly perceived, the same is true for the NPHC.

I'm saying that we both have PR issues.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

NPC/NPHC collaborations are rare, and I think a lot of it has to do with the self-segregating/highly secretive nature of some NPHC groups on some college campuses. Also, I've personally experienced a level of condescension from NPHC members who believe that "all [we] do is drink," or that our commitment isn't lifetime. That's not exactly uncommon.

But, that's totally fine with me.

It just takes being open to learning about things that aren't always in your face. If all people go based on are the things that stupid college kids (across councils and conferences) tend to do and say, sure people will have certain perceptions. Those perceptions aren't completely wrong, because they do apply to some and even many, they just aren't 100% accurate and generalizable.

I learned a lot about non-NPHC lifetime commitments through GreekChat but also through things like meeting older NPCers and NICers at alumnae/alumni/graduate chapter events; seeing NPCers and NICers wearing letters and symbols 40+years after graduation; knowing that NPCers and NICers use membership for networking opportunities; etc.

If not for those things, I would only have the typical "this is just for college" cliche` to go based on.