UCF student needing some advice

[UCFalpha]

@ BemoreLXA,

Thank you for actually taking the question seriously. Your answer was very helpful. Any reason as to why the business fratERNITY is a bad idea? (@ FleurGirl - Talk about being a troll, if really abbreviating "frat" on the internet bothers you so much, I wish I could meet your sisters, they must be Jesus Christ to deal with your ridiculous attitude).

@lucgreek

If you actually think I'm dumb enough to say any of this out loud to anyone, you're on the same level as FleurGirl. I thought that maybe if I came on this site, and was brutally honest I would actually get some help. Maybe get some questions answered in a mature way that I could never ask one of the brothers. Way to show just how nice and helpful the individuals in Greek Life are.

@33girl

If you're going to attempt to be humorous or satirical, please actually make it somewhat clever/original. Resorting to a lame "bi" joke? Didn't know they had Greek Life in 3rd grade. Again, it seems that these boards are dominated with trolls who lack any ability to be helpful in the least. I think the "trollfest" hit hardest right by your computer screen.

@ anyone that isn't a giant dbag

Care to give me some more GOOD opinions?
Why is the business fraternity a bad idea? Are they really not that helpful?

Thank you to everyone that is able to give me a MATURE answer (all one of you).

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by UCFalpha

@ BemoreLXA,

Thank you for actually taking the question seriously. Your answer was very helpful. Any reason as to why the business fratERNITY is a bad idea? (@ FleurGirl - Talk about being a troll, if really abbreviating "frat" on the internet bothers you so much, I wish I could meet your sisters, they must be Jesus Christ to deal with your ridiculous attitude).

@lucgreek

If you actually think I'm dumb enough to say any of this out loud to anyone, you're on the same level as FleurGirl. I thought that maybe if I came on this site, and was brutally honest I would actually get some help. Maybe get some questions answered in a mature way that I could never ask one of the brothers. Way to show just how nice and helpful the individuals in Greek Life are.

@33girl

If you're going to attempt to be humorous or satirical, please actually make it somewhat clever/original. Resorting to a lame "bi" joke? Didn't know they had Greek Life in 3rd grade. Again, it seems that these boards are dominated with trolls who lack any ability to be helpful in the least. I think the "trollfest" hit hardest right by your computer screen.

@ anyone that isn't a giant dbag

Care to give me some more GOOD opinions?
Why is the business fraternity a bad idea? Are they really not that helpful?

Thank you to everyone that is able to give me a MATURE answer (all one of you).

MATURE? OMG...if you could die of irony, you should start making out your will right now.

[UCFalpha]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

MATURE? OMG...if you could die of irony, you should start making out your will right now.

I was being HONEST! Like I said, there are other issues I have, but those I can ask and have answered. And actually, I think it is perfectly mature. At UCF, Sigma Chi is known for "f**king 9's and 10's." Ask anyone on campus what they've heard about Sigma Chi, and EVERYONE will say that. Hell, even the brothers I know say that is one of their main selling points. But those are only the one's being honest and straight.

Clearly you would rather have a bunch of fake, misleading people involved, but I was hoping for some straight and USEFUL help. Apparently I was incredibly wrong. I would be ashamed if I ever treated a guest like that (on the internet or in real life).

So once again, if you cannot give me a legitimate answer,
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING IN THIS THREAD!

Thank you very much.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by UCFalpha

I was being HONEST! Like I said, there are other issues I have, but those I can ask and have answered. And actually, I think it is perfectly mature. At UCF, Sigma Chi is known for "f**king 9's and 10's." Ask anyone on campus what they've heard about Sigma Chi, and EVERYONE will say that. Hell, even the brothers I know say that is one of their main selling points. But those are only the one's being honest and straight.

Clearly you would rather have a bunch of fake, misleading people involved, but I was hoping for some straight and USEFUL help. Apparently I was incredibly wrong. I would be ashamed if I ever treated a guest like that (on the internet or in real life).

So once again, if you cannot give me a legitimate answer,
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING IN THIS THREAD!

Thank you very much.

Honest =/= Mature

Example: My 6 year old can honestly say that she wants a Hershey's bar for breakfast, but that's not a mature idea. Honest, but not mature.

Also, I hate to tell ya, but you don't get to control who responds to what thread. Even if you do use a smilie face.

[UCFalpha]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Honest =/= Mature

Also, I hate to tell ya, but you don't get to control who responds to what thread. Even if you do use a smilie face.

I agree, however this is the reality at UCF. And I figured since this is the internet, I could get some honesty. All I've gotten so far is a bunch of rude responses (excluding BEMORE and LaneSig). The brothers in the social frats I mentioned make a HUGE deal about the girls they eff and everything I said. But so I wouldn't make an a** out of myself in person, I figured I would apparently make an a** out of myself on line.

Since you continue to respond, why not actually give me a little help?

The faster I get some help, the faster I can make my decision, and the faster I can go back to my troll cave which is obviously the only place I could've come from.

Is the business fraternity a good idea? From a business (future jobs, internships, etc.) standpoint, is a social or professional fraternity better?

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by UCFalpha

Is the business fraternity a good idea? From a business (future jobs, internships, etc.) standpoint, is a social or professional fraternity better?

You are going to make connections in either group. It will be up to you to add to the group you choose in order to make the friendships where people will want to help you out.

I know that Sigma Chi has helped me out on several occassions. My first 2 jobs out of college were through my fraternity connections. Even years later, I have had people notice my ring and say, "Oh, Sigma Chi". I've had friends in other fraternities where this has happened to them.

Can you be in Alpha Kappa Psi and a social fraternity at the same time (I honestly don't know)? Why not rush a social group first and then AKPsi 2nd (if allowed)?

[UCFalpha]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

You are going to make connections in either group. It will be up to you to add to the group you choose in order to make the friendships where people will want to help you out.

I know that Sigma Chi has helped me out on several occassions. My first 2 jobs out of college were through my fraternity connections. Even years later, I have had people notice my ring and say, "Oh, Sigma Chi". I've had friends in other fraternities where this has happened to them.

Can you be in Alpha Kappa Psi and a social fraternity at the same time (I honestly don't know)? Why not rush a social group first and then AKPsi 2nd (if allowed)?

Thanks again for the response!

Yes, at UCF you can be in a social and professional fraternity. However, I don't actually know anyone who has done it, mainly because of the large amount of work and time a pledge or brother has to invest.

[BemoreLXA]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

You are going to make connections in either group. It will be up to you to add to the group you choose in order to make the friendships where people will want to help you out.

I know that Sigma Chi has helped me out on several occassions. My first 2 jobs out of college were through my fraternity connections. Even years later, I have had people notice my ring and say, "Oh, Sigma Chi". I've had friends in other fraternities where this has happened to them.

Can you be in Alpha Kappa Psi and a social fraternity at the same time (I honestly don't know)? Why not rush a social group first and then AKPsi 2nd (if allowed)?

Good answer

[33girl]

Originally Posted by UCFalpha

Is the business fraternity a good idea? From a business (future jobs, internships, etc.) standpoint, is a social or professional fraternity better?

If they have regular workshops on etiquette, politeness and how to conduct yourself as a mature adult, then I would say the business fraternity is a STUPENDOUS idea.

There were many ways to ask the things you wanted to know without being so crude. The sooner you learn them, the better, because I hate to break it to you - you might end up with a woman as your boss sometime and she won't put up with your adolescent misogyny.

If the Sigma Chis (or any fraternity) at UCF have seen this thread, even if they HAVE offered you a bid, I wouldn't be surprised if it was recinded - especially since you've basically said the only reasons you want to join are to help you in your career and to get laid. Whether or not that is their day to day M.O. matters little - the last thing any fraternity wants is someone who blatantly says "this is all it's about."

[BemoreLXA]

Originally Posted by 33girl

If they have regular workshops on etiquette, politeness and how to conduct yourself as a mature adult, then I would say the business fraternity is a STUPENDOUS idea.

There were many ways to ask the things you wanted to know without being so crude. The sooner you learn them, the better, because I hate to break it to you - you might end up with a woman as your boss sometime and she won't put up with your adolescent misogyny.

If the Sigma Chis (or any fraternity) at UCF have seen this thread, even if they HAVE offered you a bid, I wouldn't be surprised if it was recinded - especially since you've basically said the only reasons you want to join are to help you in your career and to get laid. Whether or not that is their day to day M.O. matters little - the last thing any fraternity wants is someone who blatantly says "this is all it's about."

I don't exactly agree with this. He said he wants to find answers to questions that he wouldn't ask in public. If he's asking these questions here, then that means he is polite and uses proper etiquette because he will not ask them in public. Its hard to say "I want to have sex with hottest babes" without offending someone. And if he's asking it here, then he understands his image in a public setting to a higher degree than you give him credit.

I feel as if there is a lot more to a fraternity for this guy than what he put out there. He gave us as much info about him and what he wants as was needed and thats fine. Fucking bitches is great, anyone can tell you that

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by UCFalpha

@lucgreek

If you actually think I'm dumb enough to say any of this out loud to anyone, you're on the same level as FleurGirl. I thought that maybe if I came on this site, and was brutally honest I would actually get some help. Maybe get some questions answered in a mature way that I could never ask one of the brothers. Way to show just how nice and helpful the individuals in Greek Life are.

I was answering in a completely mature way, by being blunt. If you're going through rush to get "9's and 10's," a pair of letters isn't going to make that happen. You've stated really superficial reasons about going through rush that brothers WILL see through. You haven't even stated why you want to join a fraternity. It's also funny you're going by what you "hear" or "see," despite saying you know brothers in the groups. If these guys haven't approached you about rushing since you've met them, maybe they don't find you material for their group.

I'll be even more blunt. You're essentially a junior who will graduate next year. Which means if you pledge this spring, you have one year as an active. That is enough for most groups to say 'no thanks.'

Just FYI, there are members of groups at UCF who read these boards. It would be very easy to find out who you are based on your information.

[UCFalpha]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

I was answering in a completely mature way, by being blunt. If you're going through rush to get "9's and 10's," a pair of letters isn't going to make that happen. You've stated really superficial reasons about going through rush that brothers WILL see through. You haven't even stated why you want to join a fraternity. It's also funny you're going by what you "hear" or "see," despite saying you know brothers in the groups. If these guys haven't approached you about rushing since you've met them, maybe they don't find you material for their group.

I'll be even more blunt. You're essentially a junior who will graduate next year. Which means if you pledge this spring, you have one year as an active. That is enough for most groups to say 'no thanks.'

Just FYI, there are members of groups at UCF who read these boards. It would be very easy to find out who you are based on your information.

Thank you for this answer. I appreciate your bluntness and your professional answer. The reason I asked these superficial questions on here is because I would never ask them in person. I agree they are very shallow and silly, but they aren't things I would say without being anonymous.

The main reasons I want to rush is the relationships you build with the brothers, the networking you partake in general on campus, and the potential connections for the future. Since I am a business major, I believe it is extremely important to be involved in Greek life.

And yes the brothers of the fraternities I mention, as well as others, have asked me to rush every semester since I have been here. Most of the hearing and seeing has occurred first hand or from the brothers I know.

Thank you for the last part, I agree it would be best for me to remain anonymous for obvious reasons. However, I'm very private about my intentions so I would be surprised if anyone would be able to figure out who I am. I do see what you are saying, and I will be more careful.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by UCFalpha

And yes the brothers of the fraternities I mention, as well as others, have asked me to rush every semester since I have been here. Most of the hearing and seeing has occurred first hand or from the brothers I know.

Then you seem to have all the information you need. What's the point of asking here? We're all people on the internet. We don't know your campus better than you.

[UCFalpha]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Then you seem to have all the information you need. What's the point of asking here? We're all people on the internet. We don't know your campus better than you.

Very true. However, for my future would a professional or social fraternity be better for getting potential jobs or internships?

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by UCFalpha

Very true. However, for my future would a professional or social fraternity be better for getting potential jobs or internships?

Where internships are concerned, it's more of your department major and advisor. They are the ones who can help you best with finding internships in your field.