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Old 10-13-2010, 07:54 PM
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:15 PM
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However, for national organizations, there is no such thing as "regardless of national rules." Generally speaking, collegiate chapter evaluations as they pertain to hazing should be based on the national GLO's policies and procedures, the school's anti-hazing policies, and any laws that are in place.
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:28 PM
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However, for national organizations, there is no such thing as "regardless of national rules." Generally speaking, collegiate chapter evaluations as they pertain to hazing should be based on the national GLO's policies and procedures, the school's anti-hazing policies, and any laws that are in place.
I know that. I just think that given what he's said so far, if he comes in saying "well these are our national rules and blah blah blah" he'll get nowhere, if not make things even worse. I'm suggesting he come at it from the back door, as it were.
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:45 PM
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I know that. I just think that given what he's said so far, if he comes in saying "well these are our national rules and blah blah blah" he'll get nowhere, if not make things even worse. I'm suggesting he come at it from the back door, as it were.
If his national organization doesn't do "inake training," his chapter can discuss conducting an intake training where they remind themselves of their organization's policies and the proper ways to teach and reinforce those policies. Expousing personal opinions of the utility of some of the (hazing) practices can fail miserably--and people can end up trading one form of hazing for a perceivably less harmful form of hazing that is still hazing. Instead, I think that communicating organizational rules in a brotherly fashion is the context in which all of this should be done because those who can't grasp the brotherhood of it all will hopefully grasp a deterrence effect.

One of the problems that I have with what you said "the way I determine hazing is whether an activity has ANYTHING to do with learning things about the national org, the local chapter or the national and local Greek community" is that there has always been hazing that was done to get people to learn/memorize and relay information. For instance, getting pledges to jog around a track for 5 miles while reciting the Greek alphabet and chapter information works wonders for some people because some of them NEVER EVER forget that experience and what they learned. Then they have the next sets of pledges for years to come do it because it works for learning stuff. Then it's a slippery slope because someone will eventually refuse to do it, complain, or get hurt from doing it.
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