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Old 07-07-2010, 07:01 PM
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How is that probable cause? I know plenty of citizens or perm residents with issues with the English language if they speak it at all.
The law only requires that you have a reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed for probable cause. Race can't be a factor leading to that. Not speaking English can be a factor leading up to that. Other factors could be manner of dress, lack of identification, forged identification, etc.

Assuming before the fact that race is going to be the controlling factor in these arrests betrays your own preconceived notions about illegal immigration, not Arizona's.
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Old 07-07-2010, 07:02 PM
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Assuming before the fact that race is going to be the controlling factor in these arrests betrays your own preconceived notions about illegal immigration, not Arizona's.
No, it betrays preconceived notions about the prejudices of law enforcement. Ones supported by statistics showing racial imbalance in the number of traffic stops alone.
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Old 07-07-2010, 07:30 PM
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Not speaking English can be a factor leading up to that. Other factors could be manner of dress, lack of identification, forged identification, etc.

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Assuming before the fact that race is going to be the controlling factor in these arrests betrays your own preconceived notions about illegal immigration, not Arizona's.
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