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[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

But it's not in a PNM's interest report or ignore dirty rushing. A promised bid for them is a positive.

A promised bid is not positive.

Yes, if the bid is promised and they actually wind up getting a bd there, then it is.

But more often than not, the member doing the promising doesn't REALLY know if said PNM will receive a bid. She has no clue how matching will play out.

I've heard many times of PNMs being bid promised at Pref, and getting a bid to a different chapter. It's a very heartbreaking situation, as the PNM essentially thought she was guaranteed to be an XYZ on Bid Night.

Then there's always the indirect promising that some members do without realizing. Example: "Can't want to see you tomorrow!" Said member doesn't know if she WILL see her tomorrow, and that can be taken as a promise as well.

[VandalSquirrel]

I also wish there was a way to address the idle gossip that is damaging; discussing a chapter closing when it isn't. To me that is just as bad as bid promising, and hurts the whole system.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

I also wish there was a way to address the idle gossip that is damaging; discussing a chapter closing when it isn't. To me that is just as bad as bid promising, and hurts the whole system.

When I was on campus, a chapter received some sanctions from their HQ which affected their social calendar.

Somehow, this led to PNMs thinking that this chapter was closing (no clue how that came to be). Girls were asking other PNMs in their groups and even girls in other chapters about it.

We were told by Panhellenic that if we were asked about their situation, to tactfully let PNMs know that all chapters were very strong and thriving. If asked any further, we were to let them know (tactfully) that we did not know the details and to ask the GA or one of their PXs.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

When I was on campus, a chapter received some sanctions from their HQ which affected their social calendar.

Somehow, this led to PNMs thinking that this chapter was closing (no clue how that came to be). Girls were asking other PNMs in their groups and even girls in other chapters about it.

We were told by Panhellenic that if we were asked about their situation, to tactfully let PNMs know that all chapters were very strong and thriving. If asked any further, we were to let them know (tactfully) that we did not know the details and to ask the GA or one of their PXs.

This is why I do like a school that is organized and involved. UW (Huskies) and WSU (Cougars) have information on their pages about campus orgs. and their status. Though most incoming freshmen won't look, their parents might and it could make a difference. We haven't had issues while at my time at Idaho, but it seems we're open about RM issues as one can find it in the student paper with quotes from the Dean of Students. Smaller social issues are discussed, mostly men's groups, but I have yet to see it really hurt a chapter to have social sanctions.

Let's be honest, people will have socials even when they aren't supposed to, it hurts more when they can't participate in Homecoming and Greek Week.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Let's be honest, people will have socials even when they aren't supposed to, it hurts more when they can't participate in Homecoming and Greek Week.

See, and this was a part of those sanctions. No Homecoming, Greek Week, Derby Days, etc. The inability to particpate in activities like that is what led PNMs to think they were closing.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

A promised bid is not positive.

Yes, if the bid is promised and they actually wind up getting a bd there, then it is.

But more often than not, the member doing the promising doesn't REALLY know if said PNM will receive a bid. She has no clue how matching will play out.

I've heard many times of PNMs being bid promised at Pref, and getting a bid to a different chapter. It's a very heartbreaking situation, as the PNM essentially thought she was guaranteed to be an XYZ on Bid Night.

Then there's always the indirect promising that some members do without realizing. Example: "Can't want to see you tomorrow!" Said member doesn't know if she WILL see her tomorrow, and that can be taken as a promise as well.

Right, but most PNMs think their promised bid is real as you said.

I'm talking though that if there weren't silence rules at all, sororities could essentially put together their bid list before round 1 and have promised said bids to the PNMs. We've seen how even on relatively non-competitive friendly campuses rush can turn chapters nasty. With the current national emphasis on numbers (because they're needed to stay competitive) I don't see a more relaxed even fraternity style rush working. As long as quota must be achieved or else it's going to be pretty cutthroat.