Nun excommunicated for allowing abortion to save the life of a mother

[Beryana]

I just wanted add how amused I am by people thinking they understand Catholic Theology and Canon Law when most only know of Catholicism what they read in the papers. . . .

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Beryana

I just wanted add how amused I am by people thinking they understand Catholic Theology and Canon Law when most only know of Catholicism what they read in the papers. . . .

Originally Posted by Beryana

And I'm going to ask you to elaborate on your statement - other than what you have read in the newspapers.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by Beryana

I just wanted add how amused I am by people thinking they understand Catholic Theology and Canon Law when most only know of Catholicism what they read in the papers. . . .

Actually a interesting question. Of those who posted in this thread, how many actually are or were Roman Catholics?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yeah I'm not sure how else we're supposed to learn things.

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Actually a interesting question. Of those who posted in this thread, how many actually are or were Roman Catholics?

Raised Roman Catholic, attended Catholic grade school, High School, and attended a Jesuit University. My Catholic cred is solid, yo. But most people here know that at least to some extent so I don't mind sharing.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Or studied Catholicism for some reason?

That would be a good question if we asked such questions when we discuss other denominations and religions on here. Moreover, if Beryana thinks he/she has something to contribute, he/she should do so without the "you all think you know, but you don't" tone.

This.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Yeah I'm not sure how else we're supposed to learn things.

Raised Roman Catholic, attended Catholic grade school, High School, and attended a Jesuit University. My Catholic cred is solid, yo. But most people here know that at least to some extent so I don't mind sharing.



This.

Hey,I agree. I could tell you had a catholic background, and I clearly stated my non-catholic background. I don't think it really matters, though. People get on GC discussing Islam on a regular basis, and last time I checked we don't have many Muslims on the board.

[dekeguy]

[QUOTE=Drolefille;1932271] Raised Roman Catholic, attended Catholic grade school, High School, and attended a Jesuit University. My Catholic cred is solid, yo. But most people here know that at least to some extent so I don't mind sharing.

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You have very solid cred.
In my case I was raised, still practicing, and convinced RC, Catholic Parochial School, Jesuit High School (except for two years at Eton), Jesuit University,
active with Jesuit community at Campion Hall when I was doing an MA in comparative law at Oxford, and still an active parishoner and usher at Farm Street Jesuit Church when I am in London. While I was in Law School I was active in a Jesuit parish attached to another Jesuit University. Oro pro Societas!

While moderately conservative I tend to think that God the Father, who we have been urged by Christ to address as 'Abba', which is the Aramaic diminuative form of Father, better translated as 'Daddy', is not terribly preoccupied with condemning his children. I suspect that one would have to be ESSENTIALLY negative to face serious sanction. I use 'Essentially' in the Thomistic sense here.
I suggest we might kick this around a bit as I would like to hear your take on not only this but broader related issues as well.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

While moderately conservative I tend to think that God the Father, who we have been urged by Christ to address as 'Abba', which is the Aramaic diminuative form of Father, better translated as 'Daddy', is not terribly preoccupied with condemning his children.

Yikes. There's just way too much gender in there. Cringe.

(Since this thread is about a bunch of stuff.)

[dekeguy]

[QUOTE=DrPhil;1932317]Yikes. There's just way too much gender in there. Cringe.
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Last time I looked Jesus was a Man, and the last time I prayed the Lord's Prayer it began "Our Father Who art in heaven..."

Seems to me that it is kind of hard to ignore gender when discussing Christianity considering that we believe Jesus to be the "only begotten Son of God".

Gender neutrality seems oddly placed in a discussion regarding a Son who tells us of a loving Father we should think of as our Daddy.

Just as a side thought, I always tended to think that since we are told that we were made in the image and likeness of God then it seems to me that God the Holy Spirit should be seen as the female aspect of God. We are male and female and we are made in the image and likeness, so, doesn't it follow?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Or studied Catholicism for some reason?

That would be a good question if we asked such questions when we discuss other denominations and religions on here. Moreover, if Beryana thinks he/she has something to contribute, he/she should do so without the "you all think you know, but you don't" tone.

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[Beryana]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Or studied Catholicism for some reason?

That would be a good question if we asked such questions when we discuss other denominations and religions on here. Moreover, if Beryana thinks he/she has something to contribute, he/she should do so without the "you all think you know, but you don't" tone.

And I have never alluded to being an expert on Catholic Theology and definitely not on Canon Law. However, I am amused by those who DO feel they know both topics very well. I am a lowly graduate student in Catholic Theology. For the most part, I'm staying out of this conversation as I have had experience with the other players in this conversation (and have also deleted many of the posts which I WAS going to post) and despite my belief that I have a firm grasp on Catholic social teachings many of those involved in this conversation are set in their beliefs that some of the teachings of the Catholic Church are antiquated.

If you really care to know what the Catholic Church teaches, or even the systems in place for dealing with various wrongdoings, I'm more than happy to direct you to them - and they do not include newspapers or wikipedia.
(And it doesn't take too much effort to figure out that I am a 'she'. . . .)

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Beryana

And I have never alluded to being an expert on Catholic Theology and definitely not on Canon Law. However, I am amused by those who DO feel they know both topics very well. I am a lowly graduate student in Catholic Theology. For the most part, I'm staying out of this conversation as I have had experience with the other players in this conversation (and have also deleted many of the posts which I WAS going to post) and despite my belief that I have a firm grasp on Catholic social teachings many of those involved in this conversation are set in their beliefs that some of the teachings of the Catholic Church are antiquated.

If you really care to know what the Catholic Church teaches, or even the systems in place for dealing with various wrongdoings, I'm more than happy to direct you to them - and they do not include newspapers or wikipedia.

Thanks for announcing this. Woohoo.

Originally Posted by Beryana

(And it doesn't take too much effort to figure out that I am a 'she'. . . .)

More effort than it's worth, but thanks for letting me know.

[dekeguy]

[QUOTE=Beryana;1932303] For the most part, I'm staying out of this conversation as I have had experience with the other players in this conversation (and have also deleted many of the posts which I WAS going to post) and despite my belief that I have a firm grasp on Catholic social teachings many of those involved in this conversation are set in their beliefs that some of the teachings of the Catholic Church are antiquated.

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Beryana,

Please don't stay out of this conversation. You surely have an excellent and current knowledge of RC teachings and the structure by which the Church imparts her teachings.

So many people have little or no understanding of the 'why' behind the practices and teachings of the Church that your cred as a grad student in Theology could be a great way to explain so many aspects of Catholocism to all of us. Last time I looked I was neither a moral theologian nor the Pontifax Maximus so I for one would really appreciate your take on this and broader issues.
By the way, are you lay or religious? I am lay, sed oro pro Societas.

[Beryana]

Originally Posted by dekeguy

By the way, are you lay or religious? I am lay, sed oro pro Societas.

I am a Lay Dominican - so a lay member of the Order of Preachers

[dekeguy]

Originally Posted by Beryana

I am a Lay Dominican - so a lay member of the Order of Preachers

Ah ha! Then you would be very conversant with Thomism!

Since you are a lay member of the OPs may I presume you know the significance of "Oro pro Societas"?