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08-29-2005, 04:43 PM
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Question: Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing inclusion of a 27th group?
Question: Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing inclusion of a 27th group?
I loved reading the thread on the NPHC question, but there were several references to the NPC and its membership requirements.
I'm just curious what people think. There are smaller, but national women's GLOs that have been working to expand. Many are over 20 years old and have 10-20 college chapters.
Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing membership to a new 27th group? Or does anyone think that a new women's GLO conference will be created of these younger women's groups.
I imagine something will occur within the next 5 years with these other national sororities, since they are getting pretty well established ...
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08-29-2005, 05:06 PM
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Re: Question: Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing inclusion of a 27th group?
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Question: Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing inclusion of a 27th group?
I loved reading the thread on the NPHC question, but there were several references to the NPC and its membership requirements.
I'm just curious what people think. There are smaller, but national women's GLOs that have been working to expand. Many are over 20 years old and have 10-20 college chapters.
Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing membership to a new 27th group? Or does anyone think that a new women's GLO conference will be created of these younger women's groups.
I imagine something will occur within the next 5 years with these other national sororities, since they are getting pretty well established ...
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Many of these GLOs have a certain "focus" like music or engineering.
If they keep those focii they will not be admitted to NPC.
If anything, it's more likely that the number of NPC groups will decrease.
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08-29-2005, 05:10 PM
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I suppose anything is possible, but I don't really think there's a market for another NPC sorority.
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08-29-2005, 05:15 PM
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Re: Re: Question: Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing inclusion of a 27th group?
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Many of these GLOs have a certain "focus" like music or engineering.
If they keep those focii they will not be admitted to NPC.
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Has the NPC stated this outright, or is it just assumed? (I agree with you that it probably won't happen, but I'm wondering if this is an official NPC position or not.)
It really depends on whether or not the membership criteria remains the same over the coming years. If it remains the same, I can see, at the very least, Kappa Beta Gamma being readmitted. If the NPC increases the number of minimum chapters needed, which I also think is possible, then that may not happen.
I agree that the loss of a sorority or two is quite possible, but I don't think this will happen for a while.
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08-29-2005, 05:20 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Question: Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing inclusion of a 27th group?
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Has the NPC stated this outright, or is it just assumed? (I agree with you that it probably won't happen, but I'm wondering if this is an official NPC position or not.)
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I'm just assuming. We (and AST and Tri-Sig) had to drop our "educational" focus when we were admitted...i.e. we could not just admit women who were ed majors.
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08-29-2005, 05:24 PM
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I know many of the larger national sororities are also multi-cultural or interest-specific, and their recruitment methods differ quite a bit from NPC protocol. I think it would be difficult for those groups to want (or have) to change to NPC style recruitment if they were founded with a process that may be similar to NPHC intake.
I think that would be one big barrier to some of the groups joining NPC.
I also think that there are probably some groups that don't *want* to join NPC because of all the rules and protocol, and perhaps these groups prefer being autonomous.
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I know that, at some campuses alpha Kappa Delta Phi is an associate member of Panhellenic. At only 15 years old, they have strong chapters at many big campuses and associate chapters and colonies are popping up everywhere, according to their website.
I don't know much about their intake process, but from what little I do know, it's nothing compared to what I'm used to seeing from the NPC.
If aKDPhi wanted to join the NPC, wouldn't they have to rid themselves of the whole "Asian-American interest" label?
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08-29-2005, 05:32 PM
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If aKDPhi wanted to join the NPC, wouldn't they have to rid themselves of the whole "Asian-American interest" label?
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I'm wondering about the differences between "_______-interest" and "_________-only." The NPC certainly wouldn't accept a sorority that only accepts music majors, but I don't know whether or not they would deny a sorority that has a focus on music but accepts women of every major, you know?
Also, the "______-interest" concept may not be dropped even if the label is officially done away with. For example, with aKDPhi, they could easily drop the official Asian-American interest label if they really wanted to join the NPC, but with that history of their organization, their chapters would probably stay primarily Asian-American. It's really the same thing as SDT or AEPhi -- while they accept people of all religions, a number of chapters tend to be primarily Jewish just because that's the way it used to be. I imagine that would be the case if a sorority like aKDPhi wanted to go NPC.
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08-29-2005, 05:39 PM
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My thought is that the growth of a younger and/or smaller group would be hampered by the entire NPC expansion policy. If a group is expanding and growing, why would they want to place themselves in a very restricted expansion position? The entire NPC invitation and presentation protocol would be counter productive for such a group. Not to mention the whole cost issue in attempting to provide housing on campuses where that is required.
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08-29-2005, 05:51 PM
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OTW, that is a New Thought brought into the process to be sure and may be very right on the nose!!!
As most people should realize, that once a Major Group gets established, they really dont like things or people rocking the boat!
There is a History of Greeks that show the same point, and the biggest is The Union Triad for Fraternitys.
Until The Major Groups Who Govern get off of Their Rears and see that there is a Major Problem, then I dont really think Greeks will actually grow.
We sell a product, period.
So, why should male or Female want to join us as Greek of a Social Stratus?
It cost a little more, but what does it out weigh?
I would never have known so many Men of My Fraternity, not only the Local Chapter, but all over. What would I have done when a Brother says Hey, I think You are perfect for This Job Position.
We as a Member of a GLO have so many more openings than others.
Resume:
High I am Tom, I just graduated from college and need a job.
Well what did you do?
Oh, I went to class and graduated.
You werent interactive? Well No.
Resume:
High I am Tom, and I just Graduated from College and I need a job.
Well, what did You do?
Well, I was a Member of xyz, I was an Officer of these positions, I ran this Charity Event, I played in Intermural sports, I was a member of so and so Group on Campus.
Is that all? No, I just wanted to cover the High Lights!
GDIs arent Stupid, they are just not enlightened!  Dont have the oppotunity to expand the horizons!!
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08-29-2005, 05:54 PM
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I know that, at some campuses alpha Kappa Delta Phi is an associate member of Panhellenic. At only 15 years old, they have strong chapters at many big campuses and associate chapters and colonies are popping up everywhere, according to their website.
I don't know much about their intake process, but from what little I do know, it's nothing compared to what I'm used to seeing from the NPC.
If aKDPhi wanted to join the NPC, wouldn't they have to rid themselves of the whole "Asian-American interest" label?
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I believe some Latina sororities are affiialted with the NPC (I guss as an associate member?) at some schools as well. Isn't that more because some campuses require all greek orgs to be on a council, so they just became associate members to stay on campus?
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08-29-2005, 06:27 PM
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Posts need to be combined.
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08-29-2005, 06:33 PM
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I suppose anything is possible, but I don't really think there's a market for another NPC sorority.
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I agRee. There are certain NPC sororities that aren't doing so well.
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08-29-2005, 06:42 PM
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I don't think there will ever be need for one. I mean, there are already 26. And we're all continuing to expand. Just my sorority alone, has 3 new colonies just this year. We're all continuing to grow and expand. I just don't see the need for it right now. If anything, one or 2 might merge or just die out. If that DOES happen, I don't think many of us will live to see it.
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08-29-2005, 10:18 PM
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But yet at the same time, it is always possible that groups will merge/absorb or cease to exist, as several groups have allready done. I do think that one will have to disappear, be gone for a WHILE before a new group will be allowed to join (the thinking being that it would be better to re-admit XYZ to the NPC rather than accept NMO as a new national org).
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08-29-2005, 10:30 PM
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I am wondering about Ceres- actually. They were, after all, founded by an NIC fraternity.
They probably have enough chapters and have beena round for awhile now- I know at WKU they were an associate of the panhellenic, but they didn't do rush like we did, they did it totallly seperate.
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