Tom Delay: People Are Unemployed Because They Want To Be

[PiKA2001]

KAPital does have a point. My housekeeper is self employed, charges $60 a pop and is so busy that I have to schedule her three weeks in advance. Due to my own trials and tribulations I'm very critical but also empathetic of people who claim to not be able to find a job. I primarily joined the military to pad my resume, not going to lie. I also moved to the opposite side of the country to further my career; it wasn't easy to leave my comfort zone but I did it because I had to. When I see people unemployed who don't seem to have made the same sacrifices I did, I tend to think that they are not trying hard enough to make it. Hate me for it if you want, but it's my life experiences that brought me here. Degrees don't equal skills, I'm sorry. I like to ask unemployed grads what they studied in school, and it's usually something along the lines of art history or Chicano studies. That's great if you want to study that for personal enrichment but to expect to get a viable career out of it is unrealistic in my mind.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

KAPital does have a point. My housekeeper is self employed, charges $60 a pop and is so busy that I have to schedule her three weeks in advance. Due to my own trials and tribulations I'm very critical but also empathetic of people who claim to not be able to find a job. I primarily joined the military to pad my resume, not going to lie. I also moved to the opposite side of the country to further my career; it wasn't easy to leave my comfort zone but I did it because I had to. When I see people unemployed who don't seem to have made the same sacrifices I did, I tend to think that they are not trying hard enough to make it. Hate me for it if you want, but it's my life experiences that brought me here. Degrees don't equal skills, I'm sorry. I like to ask unemployed grads what they studied in school, and it's usually something along the lines of art history or Chicano studies. That's great if you want to study that for personal enrichment but to expect to get a viable career out of it is unrealistic in my mind.

Yes but every case is different. I'm 25 and not employed in my optimal career field, but I am employed and could move if I so chose or found better work elsewhere, because I don't have kids/ailing parents/familial responsibilities. Parents don't have that mobility, and people with sick/dying parents don't have that mobility. There are tons of reasons why someone wouldn't be able to move - not just not want to, but are actually unable to move.

In general, and not really directed toward you, PiKA:
I also don't think it's particularly fair to bash people for getting on facebook or what have you. When I was unemployed, I did the bulk of my resume sending in the evenings/late at night. I would spend pleeeeenty of time online doing other things (greekchat, facebook, twitter, whatever) because there's only so much TV you can watch in a day. Also, I think people downplay multitasking. How long does it take to update a facebook status? 5-30 seconds? Does that really take a super huge chunk out of applying time?

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by agzg

Yes but every case is different. I'm 25 and not employed in my optimal career field, but I am employed and could move if I so chose or found better work elsewhere, because I don't have kids/ailing parents/familial responsibilities.

In general, and not really directed toward you, PiKA:
I also don't think it's particularly fair to bash people for getting on facebook or what have you. When I was unemployed, I did the bulk of my resume sending in the evenings/late at night.

I never mentioned anything about unemployed people on facebook.

[DrPhil]

There is a massive brain fart in this thread and the stinch is coming from the people who are still stuck on the basic understandings that the rest of us acknowledged in our opening posts.

Maybe jogging in circles is fun to them.

[christiangirl]

This needs to be repeated:

Originally Posted by DrPhil

There is a massive brain fart in this thread and the stinch is coming from the people who are still stuck on the basic understandings that the rest of us acknowledged in our opening posts.

Maybe jogging in circles is fun to them.

"How many posts can a poster post if a poster can post posts?"

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

PiKAss2001, I already showed you where you contradicted yourself. As many others have explained to you, READING IS FUNDAMENTAL.

Further, the only folks who think a degree from a top tier school can be "worthless" are those who couldn't get in. Now, you can either continue to place yourself in the same category as als436, Kevin, Kapital, etc., or you can just admit that you don't really understand the dynamics of this topic and be on your merry way. !Gracias!

Actually, while his school isn't exactly "top tier", it's a really good school connected to one of the top medical schools in the area. And, I'd say he has a pretty good grasp on things considering where he came from.

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I'm sure it drives you nuts that someone who received a BA from a lower ranked school could find more success in life than a graduate of a top tier university, but it happens all the time. How's that humanities degree working out for ya? Not fair, right?

Make fun or try to discredit me and the university I went to all you want, but it's not going to change the ultimate fact that I am in my 20's already making DAMN GOOD money and STILL EMPLOYED!!!!!!!

But, let's face it, you have something on your resume that many people don't. I'm surprised you wouldn't be able to find a job around here with that.

Originally Posted by Kevin

Been watching the thread for awhile now. The bolded text is where I'm at. I understand the excuses I'm hearing, but I don't consider them valid. When libra (for example) said she's only had two interviews in the course of three months, yet doesn't feel she's responsible at all for her financial situation, I understood that she felt as if she had no responsibility for her situation, but I disagreed.

I've had two interviews in the last year. I've been applying everywhere. What's my responsibility in that? My resume was created by someone who has worked in Human Resources for 10+ years and now runs part of a staffing firm. So, what am I missing here?

-- and if you're really smart, be like PIKA and live in a place where the jobs are, like Texas, Oklahoma, D.C., the Dakotas, etc.

And, once again, moving costs money. How do you move if you have no job and no money to do it? Also, I have two parents with serious heart conditions. I'm not going to up and leave them. They own businesses, they're not gona up and leave. So, do I take responsibility and take care of those who've taken care of me all my life? Or do I leave them (if I had the money) to find a job?


And towards everyone else.... We all agree that there are people USING the system that COULD go find a job. I have a friend who has gotten jobs at Kroger, Walmart, Sam's Club, etc. She shows up to orientations and decides it doesn't work with her "schedule". (she has none) She uses coupons to the point where that business owes HER money. Those kinds of people make me sick. Then, there's people like a few of my friends, who have Masters and Bachelors degrees, who genuinely cannot find a job and NEED unemployment to pay bills. What do they do? Shrug off those bills? Then they get bad credit. So, HOW do they move with bad credit?

Kevin I'm seriously asking you those questions and not trying to be smart. Since you seem to be a professional on this topic, I'd like you to answer them.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I never mentioned anything about unemployed people on facebook.

Originally Posted by agzg

In general, and not really directed toward you, PiKA:
I also don't think it's particularly fair to bash people for getting on facebook or what have you. When I was unemployed, I did the bulk of my resume sending in the evenings/late at night. I would spend pleeeeenty of time online doing other things (greekchat, facebook, twitter, whatever) because there's only so much TV you can watch in a day. Also, I think people downplay multitasking. How long does it take to update a facebook status? 5-30 seconds? Does that really take a super huge chunk out of applying time?

RIF.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by agzg

RIF.

I read it the first time dipshit, you said, not really directed toward you PiKa. If the statement is "not really" directed towards me then why even mention me or facebook when responding?

[agzg]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I read it the first time dipshit, you said, not really directed toward you PiKa. If the statement is "not really" directed towards me then why even mention me or facebook when responding?

I was referencing this post, you fucking moron.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

True, but I still think that if you want something bad enough, you'll do something about it, especially if you have other mouths to feed. No offense to anyone on here, but I'll bet there are some people who are unemployed (in general) and are complaining about not being able to find a job, blaming it on the economy, but yet are on facebook chatting with friends, rather than looking for a job.

See, now both of us can call names. I stand by what I said, reading is FUNDAMENTAL. I responded to YOUR POST, then added my own thoughts based on what had been posted previously, by other posters.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by agzg

I was referencing this post, you fucking moron.



See, now both of us can call names. I stand by what I said, reading is FUNDAMENTAL. I responded to YOUR POST, then added my own thoughts based on what had been posted previously, by other posters.

Then you should have referenced her post instead of mine in the first place you under-employed piece of shit.

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

but it's my life experiences that brought me here. Degrees don't equal skills, I'm sorry.

I like to ask unemployed grads what they studied in school, and it's usually something along the lines of art history or Chicano studies. That's great if you want to study that for personal enrichment but to expect to get a viable career out of it is unrealistic in my mind.

Do you ever proofread your "arguments" to see if they make sense? LMAO!

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Maybe jogging in circles is fun to them.

I believe you are correct.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna

I believe you are correct.

It is also fun for some of us, apparently. I was in lurk mode but "it keep callin me...callin me...."

[PiKA2001]

[QUOTE=LatinaAlumna;1906471]Do you ever proofread your "arguments" to see if they make sense? LMAO!



What's the matter, hit too close to home?

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

What's the matter, hit too close to home?

PiKA2001, I think both our arguments are hitting too close to home. When people grasp at straws trying to find something, anything to refute or invalidate our points, we must've hit a nail on the head somewhere.

[LatinaAlumna]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

What's the matter, hit too close to home?

People who cannot make solid arguments, and proceed to contradict themselves in the same paragraph live nowhere close to my home.

Furthermore, anyone who went to a top tier university would know that theory and critical thinking are emphasized over practical job-related skills at the undergraduate level (with the exception of a handful of majors such as accounting). I am sorry that you were not aware of this, but I'm not surprised.