Fraternity Member Branded TCU

[squirrely girl]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I don't believe he was passed out.

seriously?! cause you were there and all? do you have some super psychic power the rest of us don't know about? seriously, enough with the victim blaming. it's no classier when used to make excuses for people who brand than it is to mitigate the behavior of a rapist.

sure he got drunk and made a crappy decision. i'm pretty sure a few of us here have done some stupid crap while drunk. sure he "consented." aside from the issue that i don't really believe you can truly "consent" to hazing activities anymore than you can truly consent to sex while drunk. but i agree that when he withdrew his consent either verbally or by becoming unconscious they should have stopped. this isn't really a difficult concept to understand. again, this is called assault. i liken it very much to date rapists that have sex with disturbingly drunk or unconscious girls. people who assault other people do so because they think they're special and because they're self-absorbed people who don't value the rights of others. disfiguring scars and multiple surgeries aren't a "lesson" anybody should have to "learn."

and i'm "so sorry" for the "poor" guys (and girls?) that are going to get taken to task over this but if people haven't figured out that its not a good idea to engage in activities that could be considered hazing, in Colorado of all places... then their DUMB ASSES deserve to go to jail.

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[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by squirrely girl

seriously, enough with the victim blaming.

Assuming there's a victim.

Originally Posted by squirrely girl

it's no classier....

"Classy" is such an overused word on GC.

I honestly don't hear adults walking around talking about "classy."

[squirrely girl]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Assuming there's a victim.

well going from the idea that he didn't burn his own butt... or continue to burn his own butt...

and if the crux of your response is your distaste for the overuse of the word classy, let me first apologize profusely and then ask for a list of more obscure words with which to make my future points.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by squirrely girl

well going from the idea that he didn't burn his own butt... or continue to burn his own butt...

...then he may've been just another person who agreed to get branded by people who don't know what they're doing. It unfortunately happens.

If people are going to play the fence on this one, cool. However, if people are going to assume he's a victim just because there are accusations, the rest of us will continue being as skeptical as we are being.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by squirrely girl

but i agree that when he withdrew his consent either verbally or by becoming unconscious they should have stopped.

He withdrew his consent? Seriously?! Cause you were there and all? Do you have some super psychic power the rest of us don't know about?

Works both ways.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

...then he may've been just another person who agreed to get branded by people who don't know what they're doing. It unfortunately happens.

If people are going to play the fence on this one, cool. However, if people are going to assume he's a victim just because there are accusations, the rest of us will continue being as skeptical as we are being.

For reals!! lol


So this is probably how it happened.....

Dude gets drunk w/ buddies and buddies think it would be cool to get branded but no one was 'brave' enough to volunteer.

Dude volunteers, cause he wants to show he's cool.

Dude gets the brand, and is probably too drunk to even realize what he's done.

Mommy and Daddy stumble across the brand and realize that their immaculate son has been horribly disfigured by hooligans.

Dude is too embarrassed to tell the truth so he blames it on 'hazing.'


The. End.

[kchaptergphib]

My take on this (also as someone not familiar with the Carters or the DFW area) is that the guy is, quite literally a DUMB*SS. I feel a bit sorry for him that he's going to have to continue to endure sh*t like surgeries and ridicule and people talking about him on message boards, but you did something dumb, your family may be blowing it out of proportion, and great-grandaddy's paper is publicizing it, what do you expect?!
I'll repeat: literally, DUMBASS.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

He withdrew his consent? Seriously?! Cause you were there and all? Do you have some super psychic power the rest of us don't know about?

Works both ways.

If he became unconscious, then he no longer has ability to consent so it's basically = withdrawing consent. The question is whether he really did become unconscious.

My personal question is who has "Chance" for a nickname.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by 33girl

If he became unconscious, then he no longer has ability to consent so it's basically = withdrawing consent. The question is whether he really did become unconscious.

I know

I don't believe he was unconscious.

My personal question is who has "Chance" for a nickname.

*chuckle*